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  • Honestly, who cares?

    Posted by Julian Bowman on November 9, 2013 at 6:28 pm

    Who cares, 1)?

    Honestly, who, of sound mind and a general sense of peace within themselves, genuinely cares a single iota what anybody else thinks of the software they use?

    Does my choosing of FCPX make it better than PP? No. Should anyone in the world give a toss that I use FC over PP or Avid? No.

    This forum is labelled debate, but a lot of the time it is like listening to 8 year olds at break, or MPs in the House of Commons… or rather listening to some 8 year olds and MPs who have snuck into the pub to irritate reasonable minded liberal types who were having a nice chat about a topic of choice .

    Who cares, 2)?

    Honestly, does the fact that something, anything, that was broadcast was cut on FCPX matter to anyone other than the person who cut it? Nope.

    Does the fact that something was cut and broadcast on FCPX prove anything other than that was the software of choice? Nope.

    Is FCPX suitable for professional use? Of course it is and has been, in some cases, from day 1. Is it suitable for everyone who is a professional? Of course not. Does it matter to anyone at all whether it is or isn’t suitable for someone specifically? Only to each individual or company (or rather the person in the company making the software/hardware decisions) within the realms of their own decision making process.

    Who cares, 3)?

    When some random blog post about some random programme that was cut by some random person somewhere in the world by 1 or a handful of the 7 BILLION people living on this planet, who cares enough about it to post childish sarcastic comments about how apparently FCPX is too for professional use in order to somehow prove that actually FCPX is AWESOME? Only the mentally fragile or the egotistically deluded, because mostly no one with a right mind cares. Truly. WHO CARES?

    I “make video for a living”. I don’t “make video using Canon DSLRs and FCPX with Motion 5”, because nobody cares about every word in that sentence after video.

    This forum has so many positive contributors who offer up information about a raft of different things that are useful for people to read about and listen to.

    It also has a few resident trolls who appear to have invested the entirety of their metaphysical existence on the global and fundamentalist acceptance that FCPX is, somehow, Godlike in its concept and execution.

    You latter people are truly truly tiresome. And if anything would turn people off trying to use X it would be that in using X they have an association with you.

    Timothy Auld replied 12 years, 5 months ago 14 Members · 22 Replies
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  • Julian Bowman

    November 9, 2013 at 6:38 pm

    Actually, I don’t care what anyone else thinks about thew software I use. I thought that was quite apparent from the post. But hey ho, once a troll and all that.

  • Bill Davis

    November 9, 2013 at 7:04 pm

    Snort.

    A long tiresome rant about how terrible it is for anyone else to do long tiresome rants – from a guy who’s brand is largely built on coming here to post long, tiresome rants?

    Meta on top of Meta!

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  • Charlie Austin

    November 9, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    [Julian Bowman] “Honestly, who, of sound mind and a general sense of peace within themselves, genuinely cares a single iota what anybody else thinks of the software they use?

    Does my choosing of FCPX make it better than PP? No. Should anyone in the world give a toss that I use FC over PP or Avid? No.”

    I totally agree.

    [Julian Bowman] “This forum has so many positive contributors who offer up information about a raft of different things that are useful for people to read about and listen to.

    It also has a few resident trolls who appear to have invested the entirety of their metaphysical existence on the global and fundamentalist acceptance that FCPX is, somehow, Godlike in its concept and execution.”

    Yep. It’s ridiculous and, oddly, embarrassing.

    Honestly, the reason I participate in the “debates” (before they devolves into name-calling) is motivated by selfishness. I prefer cutting in X. I work in a “niche’ industry where X does require some workarounds and where some people – coming from FCP 7 – don’t want to or can’t be bothered to learn a new way of doing things. That’s the allure of Premiere. It’s the same. Sure, you need to learn how the app works, but the timeline is essentially the same as everything that came before it. And that’s not a putdown of Premiere. It’s a great NLE. Honestly that (and price of course) was what helped FCP gain ground in the beginning as well. You could be an Avid editor, and get up to speed in FCP in a day or two. You could hit the ground running.

    But when you hit the ground in X, it’s as though you landed on the moon. Things are both the same, and very very different. Add to that all the FUD still floating around, and it’s still a hard sell.

    So, back to selfishness… 🙂 If “everybody” – In the tiny percentage of all editors that comprise my niche – switches to Adobe or Avid, then I will be forced to follow the herd. And because I prefer cutting in X – because it’s awesome 😉 – I’d like to be able to continue to do so. And so, since people do seem to come here to the Cow to gauge what “the Pro’s” are using, I continue to come here to try to cajole people into giving it a shot. In my experience, people who do, discover that they like it. As people continue to do so, I can continue to use it. Everything revolves around me!! 🙂

    So… I really don’t care what anyone thinks of my choice of NLE, but what others think affects my ability to be able to choose to use it. Thus, I am still here blathering away… 😉

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  • Steve Connor

    November 9, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0

    Steve Connor

    There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum

  • Julian Bowman

    November 9, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    Firstly, I don’t recall at any point talking about long tiresome rants. But hey ho, I guess i’m just using it [language] wrong.

    Secondly, that snort left a big bogey hanging out your left nostril. Bit minging bill… at least round this way.

  • Nikolas Bäurle

    November 9, 2013 at 8:46 pm

    The only thing I care about is that the the places I work at hopefully adopt X at some point, or at least install it on their systems, especially when they have Premiere, Avid and FCP7 anyway, and one of their best editors loves working with it…

    Other than that i don’t care, I’m enjoying myself, and get to edit on three different systems on a regular basis.

    “Always look on the bright side of life” – Monty Python

  • Timothy Auld

    November 9, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    Really? Rant it may be but I don’t see anyone else’s rants referenced in his post. Just a “who cares” about what tools folks use to create. I have a 120 year old forged anvil and a 20 year old cast anvil. In the role that each play in the iron working process they make zero impact on the finished ironwork. The quality of the work rest with the aged, cranky – but still ruggedly handsome – blacksmith.

    Tim

  • Herb Sevush

    November 9, 2013 at 10:18 pm

    I care to the extent that I’m interested in all the different work flows editors care to talk about. I’m happy to hear, but only in great detail, about how they use X (or any other NLE). I’m getting ready to make the big change and I’m trying to learn all I can about all my options. Nothing better than having some one articulate all the reasons something is great, as long as they don’t mind me asking some questions and kicking the tires a little.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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    nothin’ attached to nothin’
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  • Bill Davis

    November 9, 2013 at 11:45 pm

    [TImothy Auld] “Really? Rant it may be but I don’t see anyone else’s rants referenced in his post. Just a “who cares” about what tools folks use to create. I have a 120 year old forged anvil and a 20 year old cast anvil. In the role that each play in the iron working process they make zero impact on the finished ironwork. The quality of the work rest with the aged, cranky – but still ruggedly handsome – blacksmith.

    Tim

    So I presume that means you’d be just as content if I took away what you’re currently cutting on and gave you a 1990s era Video Toaster system?

    After all, it was a solid video editing system for that era according to many, many editors?

    Oh, wait. Don’t tell me that you actually believe that editing tools have advanced over time and DO matter?

    Or is the point that like anvils – if your software did it’s job in the 1990s – it should do the job just fine today?

    It’s one of the other. Advancements in editing approaches and tools matter – or they don’t.

    Is it that those of us who see the marriage of the database form and the NLE form as uniquely exemplified by FCP-X – and who therefore believe it’s a singularly effective tool for SOME types of editing work – are foolish – because the tool doesn’t really matter?

    Or does it?

    Either the tools are different – or they are not. If they’re not – then the endless hours spent debating them makes us all fools.

    I don’t see many rock guitarists using hollow body “Jazz style” guitars like the ES-335. They uses Strats and Les Pauls – because those forms simply work better for a rock environment.

    So two with NLEs.

    In my opinion, anyway.

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  • Nicholas Kleczewski

    November 10, 2013 at 3:41 am

    This forum, nay, this site would be a baron wasteland of empty threads and videoguys ads if any of what you said here were “how it is” on here. Unfortunately the people doing most of the real work out there, just don’t have time for the lunacy, so we for the most part sit back and smile with slight repressed sadness and read the horror and the drivel most post about. Sometimes we come out of the woodwork to respond to something of value or to pipe up with things have gone just topsy turvy, but thats about it.

    “my only mistake is I’m hoping…”

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