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Home built PC but not really quite equivalent to new Mac Pro
Shawn Miller replied 12 years, 4 months ago 17 Members · 64 Replies
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Gary Huff
December 28, 2013 at 4:55 am[Oliver Peters] “. You aren’t going to get any specifics on what optimization means, because Apple tends to keep that to themselves. Some of that comes in Mavericks changes, such as how background OS functions are now cached, in order to make more CPU cycles available to open programs while they are working. That’s an under-the-hood OS change.”
I was referring specifically to optimization on the hardware level versus what you would get with the same motherboard architecture and CPU configuration on a homebrew system.
[Oliver Peters] “Along those same lines, FCP X 10.1 loads faster and performs “more fluidly” on the same 2009 Mac Pro with 10.9.1 than FCP X 10.0.9 under 10.8.5. Can I quantity it? No. Is it real? Yes.”
Can also be confirmation bias, which is why I tend to discount all of it. It’s slower on Windows because, well, Windows. It’s faster on Mac because, well, Mac.
Completely pointless.
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Bernard Newnham
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Aindreas Gallagher
December 28, 2013 at 5:40 pmi think you’re neglecting the point that the macpro is the coolest thing ever made.
I mean, hard point to quantify, it being the coolest thing ever made, but nevertheless, it is the coolest thing ever made.
the sistine chapel is pretty cool, but overall that new macpro edges it I find.
and thats not even going into the fact that they had to steal the thing from the starship enterprise. because that had to have been pretty difficult.
Jony Ive winching down a turbolift shaft in a balaclava etc.
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John Heagy
December 28, 2013 at 7:20 pmOne can build a PC with 16 cores. This means PCs can out CPU a MacPro until Apple decides otherwise.
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James Culbertson
December 28, 2013 at 9:31 pm[John Heagy] “One can build a PC with 16 cores. This means PCs can out CPU a MacPro until Apple decides otherwise.”
But that PC won’t be able to out-FCPX the macpro. 😉
Seriously though, macs and PCs have been leapfrogging each other for how long now? What is the point of this conversation again?
Though I am learning some things about the current state of GPU cards, CPU, etc. more generally.
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Santiago Martí
December 29, 2013 at 12:52 amActually, you can build PCs with 24 cores, 512GB of RAM, etc… For a lot of money, of course.
The Mac Pro is a turnkey solution to specific needs, like OSX and FCPX. That’s what makes it attractive to a lot of people.Santiago Martí
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Aindreas Gallagher
December 29, 2013 at 1:01 amthere is a broader ease to life on the mac tho.
it is a nicer existence given the amount of time spent there yes? windows is kind of moronic everywhere and a bit awful.
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Robert Sala
December 29, 2013 at 11:13 amWe have a Supermicro 7047 to run DaVinci Resolve.
(2x 6core, 192GB RAM, Quadro K5000 + 4x GTXTitan in Cubix).
Awaiting our 12-core, 64GB, 2xD700 MacPro. It will be interesting to see comparison of standard candle test on both. -
Frank Gothmann
December 29, 2013 at 11:15 am[Aindreas Gallagher] “there is a broader ease to life on the mac tho.
it is a nicer existence given the amount of time spent there yes? windows is kind of moronic everywhere and a bit awful.”
Again, it depends. After over a year on win as my main OS, I can easily list a ton of points where OSX behaviour is slow, buggy, inconsistent and a much inferior user experience than Windows, some things are downright shocking in OSX. And, of course, there are also things which are better in OSX. And the same goes for any given Linux and it’s various desktop environments. To simply say it is moronic everywhere is just wrong.
Same goes for the new Mac Pro. It is by now means a bad or slow machine. It’s a slightly above average single-cpu workstation with above average graphics power (unless you need Cuda flexibility which I do, some apps won’t even boot without a CUDA card) and a design which in my opinion doesn’t make any sense at all. The latter is a matter of opinion, the former a matter of fact and when people immediately came forward after the machine’s announcement and called it “the beast”, the “black pc killer”, the “behemoth” and what not, I simply think it’s the usual Apple hyperbole that has little to do with the reality.
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Aindreas Gallagher
December 29, 2013 at 3:32 pm[Frank Gothmann] “To simply say it is moronic everywhere is just wrong.”
well, kind of moronic. i just detest windows. it feels cruddy and stupid and badly designed. and win 8 metro start menu looks completely ludicrous.
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