Holy Freakin’ Moly! ProRes 1080i via FireWire!

[Vince Gaffney]

How bout 24f material? have you tried that?

vince

[John Pale]

Interesting, But, on the same machine, I cant playback Pro Res HD footage w/o dropping frames…(even on a 5 disk RAID).

[Chris Poisson]

Here’s more info, there seems to be only one easy setup for HDV- FW to ProRes, and it seems the same on Tiger and Leopard, as I checked on two machines running each. It’s the Apple ProRes 422 108024p setup. Then you can apparently change the settings to 29.97 or whatever you want, I captured 60i and 30p footage this way, and each looked great. When you go to capture from a Canon A1 via FW, you don’t get a capture window you’re used to, just a dialog box where you can name the clip. Kinda strange, but you get audio, video and TC. It makes new clips on TC breaks. So it’s a capture now method, but it works.

BTW after you’re done capturing in this way, you can change your sequence settings to whatever, so if ProRes is dropping frames on your system (John) change it to whatever. One of the tests I did was on my laptop, and it played out ProRes 422 via FW to my NTSC monitor, scaled down to NTSC of course, but it looked great. I have been able to play ProRes on my G5 since it came out, I just have to turn off everything else!

My G5 has an X 800XT in it, if that makes a difference.

Have a wonderful day.

[Chris Poisson]

Forgot to mention my RAID is 0 on a Firmtek 4 drawer SATA.

Have a wonderful day.

[Matt Devino]

“Interesting, But, on the same machine, I cant playback Pro Res HD footage w/o dropping frames…(even on a 5 disk RAID). ”

That suprises me. I tested out 24p capture from 1080i (24p with pulldown) from my Sony V1U, and I made a custom easy setup, taking the HDV to ProRes 1080p24 easy setup and making it ProResHQ, and this captured/plays back perfectly on my Dual 1.8Ghz G5 with a WD My Book Pro firewire 800 drive (2 500GB drives raided at Raid 0). It removed pulldown and created new clips on the fly no problem. I would check out your raid to make sure its working properly, hopefully you don’t have disk that’s about to die.

[Sean Oneil]

You can play ProRes HD off your internal drive if you want. In fact, you could probably play it off an iPod.

ProRes is only 240mbps. Firewire offers bandwidth of 400mbps, and a single disk drive is usually 40MB/s or higher.

If you’re dropping frames, chances are it has nothing to do with your disk speed. More likely your CPU/GPU/RAM.

[John Pale]

[mattdawgpro] ” I would check out your raid to make sure its working properly, hopefully you don’t have disk that’s about to die.”

No problem with the RAID. Its definitely the processor. I can play uncompressed HD off this RAID. I didn’t expect a dual 2ghz G5 to handle ProRes, and it doesnt.

I should have said 1080i 60 though…it seems I can play 23.98fps with some degree of success.

[Geoff Addis]

I understand that the latest 6.0.2 update to FCP includes the capability in easy set up to capture HDV via firewire with conversion to ProRes on the fly. Anyone know if this is correct? I cannot load the latest update as it requires QT7.3 and that does noty appear to download here at the moment.

Geoff

[Jonathan White]

Sounds fabulous, does this mean I can capture HDV from my Sony 1080i50 to pro res and edit, could someone give me a step by step workflow as I get confused with the easy setups, I can’t seem to duplicate or edit the HDV – Pro res easy setup (which seems to be set to 1080p24????

Thanks,

Johnny

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[Geoff Addis] “I understand that the latest 6.0.2 update to FCP includes the capability in easy set up to capture HDV via firewire with conversion to ProRes on the fly. Anyone know if this is correct?”

Yes this is correct, that is what this entire thread is about.

The BIG downfall is that you cannot log and capture anything, it only works as a capture now, just like capturing with the Apple Intermediate Codec.

I do not like not being able to log and capture so I will probably continue capturing the video as HDV and changing my render settings to ProRes, this way anything that needs rendering is rendered in the ProRes Codec.