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  • Hitting the wall on HDV project – need advice on practical limit

    Posted by Mike Mcmahon on November 1, 2009 at 12:51 am

    I am working on an HDV project in PP3. When I added music, rendering failed. Here are the details:

    TL now contains 25 minutes of footage, HDV + ~20 jpg images.
    Footage was captured using HDVSplit from CanonHV30 camcorder.
    I render to MPEG-2, preset=HDTV1080i, 29.97, Q=4.
    I play the resulting .mpg file on a WD TV HD Media Player on a Sony TV

    All was well until I started adding music on additional audio tracks. I added portions of 4 .mp3 files (total time ~ 15 mins). I also have a few sound effects…some in mono. After the addition of the music files, the rendering failed. Error message was “Failed to Return Frame..Operation Canceled”. Then, “system memory resources low, save your work frequently”. Then, system crash.

    I did some detective work looking for a dropped frame…couldn’t find it (recall – no issues with orig video/audio track w/o music).

    Am I hitting the upper end of an HDV project’s size in PP3 with my current config (below)?

    Thanks, in advance.

    – Mike –

    PremProCS3 v3.2.0 (2nd Int Drive houses media, project, scratch)
    HP m8187c-b Desktop Computer
    E6750 Intel Core 2 Duo 2 Gb RAM
    2 – 500 Gb internal SATA drives 7200 rpm
    DVD reader/burner w. Lightscribe
    NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT
    LP3065c 30 inch LCD monitor Dual-DVI (2560×16000)
    Vista Home Premium

    Mike Mcmahon replied 16 years, 6 months ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Jon Barrie

    November 1, 2009 at 2:13 am

    Mp3 is the problem here. If you export each mp3 song by itself to a 48k wav or aiff file you can literally replace the mp3 files by selecting them on the project panel and right click ‘unlink’ – don’t delete them. Then relink them rot the wav files. The edit will now be using the wav file audio instead the known problematic mp3 files. Whallah!
    – Jon Barrie

    Jon Barrie
    aJBprods
    http://www.jonbarrie.net

  • Mike Mcmahon

    November 1, 2009 at 5:49 am

    Jon,

    Thanks for the advice…I’ll report back on the outcome. Will probably look to s/w like Audacity to do the conversion, unless you suggest otherwise.

    – Mike –

  • Mike Mcmahon

    November 3, 2009 at 3:02 am

    Jon,

    I’m happy to report success…thanks for your advice.

    For others reading this post, I’ll include some detail on my workflow:
    * I identified the mp3 sound files in the project
    * I downloaded from CNET a shareware program, Switch Sound File Converter…I used it to quickly convert those mp3 files to WAV (48000, 16 bit, stereo). The converted WAV files were placed in the same folder at the original MP3 files.
    * In the Premiere Project Panel, I replaced each mp3 with its WAV equilvalent (highlight the mp3 clip, Rt Click, Make Offline. Then, highlight it again, Rt Click, Link Media, navigate/select the new WAV version. I edited the label in the Project panel to remind myself that it now pointed to the WAV version of the file.
    * I scrubbed the Timeline to check for accuracy
    * I was then able to render the project to MPEG2 without error.

    Thanks again, Jon.

    – Mike –

    Note to self -> mp3 files in a Premiere Project? Never, again.

  • Mike Mcmahon

    November 4, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    Sorry to report that I’m having more performance issues:
    * Visual C++ failures when reviewing the timeline
    * Failures when trying to render the timeline
    * Failures when trying to Export to Encore

    The version of my HDV project that finally rendered correctly after following Jon’s advice on WAV vs MP3 is now stating to fail.

    Web research on C++ errors looks like a bit of a nightmare.

    Am worried about my original concern at the top of this post (i.e. am I pushing my luck with an HDV project of this size with my current config?).

    I plan to use Photoshop CS3 to resize all still images to their smallest possible pixel dimensions. I have ~ 60 still images within the 25-min sequence. All are jpg files. They range in size from 1 to 3 MB each. Many are sized at ~3,000 x 2,000 pixels to allow for zooming/scaling.

    Other ideas/advice would be greatly appreciated.

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