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  • hitch in animation

    Posted by Dave Snowdy on January 19, 2006 at 7:52 am

    My switch from Cinewave to Kona LH has been flawless except for this:

    I’ve got some files with alpha channels that won’t playback or render properly. The clips are typically a second or so and they always stutter, double-frame, etc. in the last bit of the clip. They’re transitions that cover up a cut on a lower video track, alpha compositing. Alpha keying shows up correctly.

    The files are Animation codec, 720×486 29.97 (rendered and live were OK in Cinewave)
    Sequence is Kona 525 8bit uncompressed, same frame size and rate.

    Tried recompressing into all sorts of formats with no luck.

    Latest versions of Kona, OS X, FCP, QT, Xserve RAID. 2gb RAM

    Any ideas?

    Gary Adcock replied 20 years, 3 months ago 3 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Walter Biscardi

    January 19, 2006 at 12:30 pm

    [dsnowdy] “I’ve got some files with alpha channels that won’t playback or render properly. The clips are typically a second or so and they always stutter, double-frame, etc. in the last bit of the clip. They’re transitions that cover up a cut on a lower video track, alpha compositing. Alpha keying shows up correctly.”

    Hmmm, I do this all the time with transitions for projects. Were the animations rendered lower field first when you made them? Sounds like they were rendered full frame or they were rendered in the reverse field order.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com

    Director, “The Rough Cut”
    https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

    Now Posting “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Dave Snowdy

    January 19, 2006 at 1:41 pm

    Hey. Thanks.

    Our graphics guy created the graphics for a show that’s a few years old, so he’s long gone and we no longer have the software that created the files.

    My work is FCP only. Anything I can do within FCP to fix it?

    Dave

  • Walter Biscardi

    January 19, 2006 at 1:44 pm

    Right click on one of the Animations and tell me what the Item Properties are and maybe we can do something to help you out. I’m looking for frame size, codec and I think it will tell you the field order but I can’t remember.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com

    Director, “The Rough Cut”
    https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

    Now Posting “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Dave Snowdy

    January 19, 2006 at 11:56 pm

    The files have these attributes:
    720×486 29.97, Animation codec
    pixel aspect NTSC-CCIR 601
    field dom. Lower (even)

    I spoke with the graphics person. He wasn’t sure but remembered the system he was using defaulted to full frame.

  • Gary Adcock

    January 20, 2006 at 12:48 am

    [dsnowdy] “The files have these attributes:
    720×486 29.97, Animation codec pixel aspect NTSC-CCIR 601 field dom. Lower (even)”

    in my experience Animation codec files should not have a field order defined.

    Gary Adcock
    Studio37
    HD and Film Consultation
    Chicago, IL USA

  • Walter Biscardi

    January 20, 2006 at 1:14 am

    [gary adcock]
    in my experience Animation codec files should not have a field order defined.”

    Actually in my experience they do need to have the fields defined or you get a bad “reverse interlaced” look in 720×486 interlace timelines.

    According to what he’s posting everything looks right, I’m not sure why he’s getting the look that he is.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com

    Director, “The Rough Cut”
    https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

    Now Posting “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Gary Adcock

    January 20, 2006 at 8:39 pm

    [walter biscardi] “Actually in my experience they do need to have the fields defined or you get a bad “reverse interlaced” look in 720×486 interlace timelines.”

    Funny, I stopped using field order sometime back for the animation files when I was jumping between machines / platforms / Apps.

    Since that time I have not had these issues because I was letting the applications force their own field order.

    it just shows there is never one answer to any question.

    Gary Adcock
    Studio37
    HD and Film Consultation
    Chicago, IL USA

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