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  • Here’s a Good One-Source Vid 320×240

    Posted by Gary Chvatal on January 2, 2008 at 1:13 am

    A client comes in and asks if I can help them put together a training video. Got a week to pull it together.

    They have all their video…they say their interviews are on CD and they need to intercut a bunch of archive VHS and newspaper articles and headlines. A bit of voice over. Should be a piece of cake.

    I figured the interviews were really on DVD but no…they are on CD. Their secretary shot them with her video camera and they were saved on memory cards. She transferred them to CD.

    I got to look at the video…it must have come from a digital camera…they are avi’s at 320×240.

    I know this will look terrible…especially if I try to stretch the video to full frame. My next thought is to lay the video onto some kind of a background in a window…like a jumpback. Then I can intercut that with the full frame VHS archival footage.

    Or should I try to stretch the video to full frame size and live with that mess. I’ll start to capture tomorrow and the edit is scheduled for 4:30…they expect the finished show to be 20-30 minutes…

    Any ideas?

    Jerry Waters replied 18 years, 4 months ago 5 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Laszlo Kovacs

    January 2, 2008 at 4:49 am

    I’ think you should tell your client the quaility problem. Anyway, I’d stretch the 320*240 to full frame, render a piece out and show it to the client: this is how it’s going to look like.
    If he/she asks why it’s so terrible, you can explain.
    Maybe next time you’ll be asked not only editing, but shooting their interviews 😉

  • Rick Mac

    January 2, 2008 at 4:50 am

    [Gary Chvatal] “they are avi’s at 320×240.
    I know this will look terrible…especially if I try to stretch the video to full frame.”

    What you might try is “super sampling”.
    It will help sharpen up that low rez stuff when you
    up rez it.
    It will take much longer to render the super sample
    areas. Here is where you find it.
    View/Video Bus Tracks (Shift+CNTRL+B). This will insert a
    super sample envelope on your Video Master Bus. All you
    do from there is raise the value of the envelope during the
    areas that have the low rez stuff, back off during regular rez stuff. Note that your preview frame rate will drop way down during the super sample sections. The higher you raise the super sample value the more sampling it does and the longer your render time.

    I would suggest that you render a short section of the low rez video using the super sampling to see if it will do the trick for you.

    Regards, Rick.

    Rick Mac
    Director of Audio Production
    TCT Network – Directv 377

  • Gary Chvatal

    January 2, 2008 at 12:16 pm

    I told them straight away about the problem…I just wasn’t sure what was the best course of action in the short run to get them out of the jam.

  • Laszlo Kovacs

    January 2, 2008 at 4:19 pm

    May I miss something… isn’t supersampling for TIME?
    (I mean interpolating frames when slo-mo?)

  • Rick Mac

    January 2, 2008 at 6:49 pm

    [Laszlo Kovacs] “May I miss something… isn’t supersampling for TIME?
    (I mean interpolating frames when slo-mo?)”

    Nope. It is a big help when you up-scale your video.
    Let’s say going from 320X240 to 720X486.
    It is also good for speed (time) effects as you mentioned.
    I got this tip from DSE’s book (Vegas 6 Editing Workshop).

    If you have more questions about super sampling post
    a message attention DSE (Douglas Spotted Eagle).

    Give it a try.

    Regards, Rick.

    Rick Mac
    Director of Audio Production
    TCT Network – Directv 377

  • Laszlo Kovacs

    January 2, 2008 at 7:05 pm

    Thanks Rick for the correction.
    In fact I never needed supersampling, just read about it.

    Regards.

    K.L.

  • Douglas Spotted eagle

    January 2, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    In only helps if you’re changing the temporal AND spatial characteristics of the frame. It won’t benefit from spatial changes-only.

    Douglas Spotted Eagle
    VASST

    Certified Sony Vegas Trainer
    Aerial Camera/Instructor

  • Rick Mac

    January 3, 2008 at 2:02 am

    [Douglas Spotted Eagle] “only helps if you’re changing the temporal AND spatial characteristics of the frame. It won’t benefit from spatial changes-only.”

    Spot, can you flesh this out a bit?
    You lost me. What is temporal and spatial?
    Will super sampling help Gary up-rez his 320×240 avi’s
    to 720×480?
    If so, is the workflow I suggested to him sound or does it
    need tweeking?

    Regards, Rick.

    Rick Mac
    Director of Audio Production
    TCT Network – Directv 377

  • Gary Chvatal

    January 3, 2008 at 3:52 am

    We just got done with the client cutting all the video into a time line. Dropped in a bunch of photos and scans too. Very rough and very raw…I’m going to make a few graphics and tweak the scans tomorrow…cut music into a few spots and that’s that.

    Its ugly but these folks are thrilled that they will have anything for their business meeting. They want to dry run their presentation Friday and Fly to whereever for their meeting on Monday. Maybe tweak it some more after they get back for use in other locations…

    I’ll do a test render in the morning to see what it will look like. Did not add the super sampling routine to the timeline yet.

  • Douglas Spotted eagle

    January 3, 2008 at 4:05 am

    Question for you…since they’re running it at a biz meeting anyway, why not just keep it at 320 x 240 as a project, and let the projector size it in relationship to the screen? It’ll likely look better anyhow, and then there is no upsampling to deal with. If they want to distribute on a DVD, you’ll have to upsample, but if it’s not *necessary*, why do it?

    Douglas Spotted Eagle
    VASST

    Certified Sony Vegas Trainer
    Aerial Camera/Instructor

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