Here comes the wet blanket on Role Mixing

[Mathieu Ghekiere]

[Paul Figgiani] “I applied a verb to the Role in clip’s Roles option in the Inspector. I then switched to Sub-roles and added a gain plug to all Sub-roles. The verb on the top level Role was retained. Maybe I’m misinterpreting what you guys are referring to …”

Yes. That’s correct.
If you do the same to a subrole, and not on a Role, then switch back to Roles Mixing in the Audio Configuration, your effects that you put on the Subroles seperately (and not on the ‘parent’ Role) will be lost. Just try it. (It’s easier for us because in the tutorial you see it in action).

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[Bill Davis]

Think metadata flow.

Metadata naturally flows from Roles into Subroles.

But not so much from Subroles upstream into the Roles.

Overall, it’s why when you change the audio level of a clip – it doesn’t effect the audio level of the parent clip in the browser. The browser is basically “upstream” from the clip.

FWIW.

Assign roles and subroles EARLY – if you want those choices to flow into your subsequent work downstream.

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[Richard Herd]

Can you adjust levels in that view, the one on the left? Seems like they have space for some more icons to control dB, pan, eq, FX.

[Craig Seeman]

Looking at last nights FCP Virtual User Group 8 at about 45:00 to about 50:00 Sam Mestman explains the use of roles. As we’ve noted if you go from Sub Roles back to Roles in the Inspector you lose the FX on the Sub Roles. He seems to say though, that if you instead make another Compound Clip, you then can add FX to Roles, not losing the Sub Roles information. Of course I could be misinterpreting this. His argument is that with this much granularity it may obviate the need to go into a DAW in some cases.