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HELP! Worst fears about Sony are coming true.
Hi!
I have a problem and Sony Vegas is acting like Windows. It gives this error:
Rendering could not be completed, and the error could not be determined (or something like that).
So how am I supposed to know what’s wrong?
I am trying to render a two and half hour edited video (2 video tracks, 2 sound tracks, 2-7 image overlay tracks, 4 video fx on each video) into a 20MBIT/S WMV (CBR single pass, keyframe every 1 second, highest quality, 192kbps audio).
I am using Sony Vegas 7.0d and have had rendering problems before, but they were always memory related (still no idea why), or I was trying to render to the same drive as the source files. So those I understand, and have made sure they don’t happen again.
I tried to render the same project on 2 computers.
1: Intel E6600 (Dual Core), 3GB RAM, 4 harddrives (1.5TB total)
2: AMD x2 5600+ (Dual Core), 3GB RAM, 2 harddrives (500+200GB)The same error comes up. I made sure that rendering is done to a separate drive that has at least 80GB free space.
What the heck? What is Vegas doing? Isn’t it reading a frame, rendering it, then moving onto the next? What is Vegas doing when rendering to WMV???
My first thought was that it needs more temporary storage perhaps, but I doubt that.
Also, somebody said that Vegas can use upto 2GB of RAM. Well I don’t see a way to go above 1024MB in the Options…. Anybody?
Any help is appreciated.
David
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8 Replies
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Double check where your temporary files folder is set to. Try changing it to a different drive or partition.
Gary Kleiner
Learn Vegas and DVD Architect
http://www.VegasTrainingAndTools.com
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[David Timar] “I tried to render the same project on 2 computers.”
Does the error occur on the same spot in the rendering process? If so there is a problem at this point, and it should be possible to isolate what that is. If it happens on different spots, the error is probably memory related or similar.
[David Timar] “What is Vegas doing when rendering to WMV???”
When Vegas renders to VMW it uses the Microsoft media encoder to do the job. Essentially Vegas just hands the frames to the Microsoft product and lets it do the job. The error message you are seeing actually looks like a Microsoft error message, but I can’t say for sure.
[David Timar] “Also, somebody said that Vegas can use upto 2GB of RAM. Well I don’t see a way to go above 1024MB in the Options”
The amount of memory Vegas can use is determined by Windows, and the limit is 2G. The 1024 option is not how much memory Vegas is using, just how much memory Vegas is using for a specific task. I’d recommend keeping this number very low for this particular task.
Other than this, I’d recommend trying Gary’s suggestion.
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You might try updateing to 7.0e. I don’t think its changelog said anything even similar to what your talking about, but you never know….
–the Fiddler
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This is getting interesting. I tried changing the temp folder, changing the Video Preview memory allocation from 0-1024, rendering to different drives/partitions.
Same problem at different times, PLUS now I was trying to render the first 2 minutes of a completely different project, and I get a ‘Low on memory’ message. And this is on a clean Windows XP Pro install, 3GB RAM (tested with latest Memtest), 4GB of Windows pagefile, rendering to a drive with 100GB free space, and my Vegas temp folder set on a drive with another 100GB of free space.
I am getting frustrated. What the hell is Vegas actually doing when rendering? Are there any software engineers from Sony reading these forums? Why isn’t there a clear error and action log in Vegas to debug such problems?
Anybody had anything similar?
Thanks
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I’ll stand corrected on this if I am wrong but unless you are using ram render, in the options the ram render of which you say 1024 is available should be set to 0. By setting a figure in this box what you are actually doing is allocating ram ‘only’ for ram rendering and hence take that amount away from what is available for your ‘proper’ render.
Set your pagefile to twice the amount of ram you have. Place your pagefile on a different drive to your system files & ideally a different drive to your render files. Place at least 100mb of pagefile on you system drive.
Set your pc to Clear PageFile at Shutdown
Go to Start > Control panel > Administrative tools > local security policy > Local policies > security options then find the option >
“Shutdown: Clear Virtual Memory Pagefile” right click then Properties + enable and then hit Apply button. This will increase your shutdown time but it is better to start with a clean slate.Have you configured your ram properly? I know nothing on this subject apart from you cannot just ‘plug and play’ more than 2gig of ram on windows. You are on windows xp sp2 yeah?
No heat problems?
Good luck!
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Just found this explanation for you. I know it doesn’t solve your problem directly, but if you haven’t configured the ram to be used correctly then maybe this in itself is causing you a problem.
XP (and other OS’s) have a 4GB memory limit. Split. 2GB for OS and 2GB for Application. The /3GB switch borrows 1GB from the OS and loans it to application demands.
The application must be designed to take advantage of this (aka Large Address Aware) otherwise it’s usless as many applications are designed around the 2GB limit. Does anyone know what Vegas is?
Check out the microsoft website for direct instructions if you choose to edit your boot.ini file to switch the 3GB switch. In theory at least, if you haven’t already done this then you might just as well pull the extra 1GB because it isn’t doing anything.
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****** Warning ******
I am not suggesting you use the 3GB switch. On the contrary, from what I have just read it is a waste of time and moreover can cause serious system problems.
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Sorry, I’m being a bit sloppy, overtired I guess! You only need to leave 100kb on your system drive. (not 100MB as I previously posted) the reason is that windows requires a dump file size of 64kb so 100kb covers it!
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