Help with trying to go HD, emphasis on key matte

[Matthew Causon]

Meant to say Io Express is an io Device (box) not card.

Apologies

Matty

[Tim Kolb]

[gary adcock] “And Contrary to Tim’s comment about the IoHD only being available for FCS2,
The IoHD software has been updated for FCS3. The AJA Software update had to wait for a fix available in the 7.01 FCP from Apple.”

As you said, I’m a PC guy and I can only go by what is on the website…and it says “For use with Apple Final Cut Studio 2 on Mac OS X” …I just double checked.

TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,

[Gary Adcock]

[Tim Kolb] “As you said, I’m a PC guy “

One of the best “PC” guys I know too.

gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows for the Digitally Inclined
Chicago, IL

https://library.creativecow.net/articles/adcock_gary/AJAIOHD.php

[Tim Kolb]

[gary adcock] “Tim in a PC guy and while those 8 bit Mpeg files my play well on a PC, ProRes is always 10bit color and designed from the ground up to be optimized for FCP.”

Funny…PPro is incapable of handling MPEG over 35 Mbit, but 100 Mbit runs very well in FCP.

However, there is no question that 10 bit beats 8 bit for compositing work hands-down.

TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,

[Tim Kolb]

[Matthew Causon] “I think an AJA Ki Pro with an Io Express would be a good route.”

Technically, if you had a KiPro, you would simply transfer your footage into your computer as a data transfer. You wouldn’t need the IO Express for ingest. If you have an HDSDI monitor on your editing system, the IO Express would be helpful.

If you are running a monitor from your computer’s display card, the IO Express would be useful to introduce other types of footage onto your system.

Otherwise…you would want a KiPro to make a portable ProResHQ recording system with a camera…OR you could add an IO Express to your desktop system and use it to ingest HDSDI from your camera live in the studio (but a desktop system isn’t very portable). For the purpose of ONLY ingesting into your Mac, they would be somewhat redundant.

TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,

[Tim Kolb]

[gary adcock] “One of the best “PC” guys I know too.”

I’m guessing that you don’t mean ‘politically correct’…

🙂

Seriously…the IO HD now runs with FCS 3, or is it waiting for Apple? Or did Apple do their thing and it now works?

People from the dark side of the force want to know…

TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,

[Gary Adcock]

[Tim Kolb] “Technically, if you had a KiPro, you would simply transfer your footage into your computer as a data transfer. “

People forget that the KiPro is both a 10bit recorder and Player.
The recoding unit can play out the files over SDI/ HMDI or Component into systems that are not ProRes friendly like PPro is. This is the recommended workflow for say an Avid System.

I know that this workflow is essentially no longer tapeless- but by maintaining the 10bits when using the unit as a player device keeps quality at a significantly lower cost than using an HDCamSR or D5 decks deck- the only other mainstream 10bit recording devices.

gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows for the Digitally Inclined
Chicago, IL

https://library.creativecow.net/articles/adcock_gary/AJAIOHD.php

[Tim Kolb]

[gary adcock] “People forget that the KiPro is both a 10bit recorder and Player.
The recoding unit can play out the files over SDI/ HMDI or Component into systems that are not ProRes friendly like PPro is.”

I didn’t forget, Gary. I’ve used the KiPro as a master HDSDI ‘VTR’.

My comment was based on Matthew’s recommendation to pair a KiPro and an IO Express…but Mark outlined in his original post that he was using FCP.

So for Mark, the direct route via file transfer from the KiPro’s drive would be the easiest…adding an HDSDI (or HDMI) real time transfer between the KiPro and the IO Express into FCP (not to mention the unnecessary decode-reencode step) would be a waste of time.

…right?

TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,

[Gary Adcock]

[Tim Kolb] “Seriously…the IO HD now runs with FCS 3, or is it waiting for Apple? Or did Apple do their thing and it now works? “

Yes,timmy the IoHD now properly works under FCP 7.01 and OSX 10.6.1 and later.

It is my understanding that the “hooks” into FCP to allow for the IoHD to remotely process ProRes (independent of the host CPU) had to wait for both the the FCP and Snow updates before Aja could update their software.

gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows for the Digitally Inclined
Chicago, IL

https://library.creativecow.net/articles/adcock_gary/AJAIOHD.php

[Gary Adcock]

[Tim Kolb] “So for Mark, the direct route via file transfer from the KiPro’s drive would be the easiest…adding an HDSDI (or HDMI) real time transfer between the KiPro and the IO Express into FCP (not to mention the unnecessary decode-reencode step) would be a waste of time. “

Correct.

gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows for the Digitally Inclined
Chicago, IL

https://library.creativecow.net/articles/adcock_gary/AJAIOHD.php