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  • Help with Multiclip editing

    Posted by Max Huggett on July 10, 2009 at 1:57 am

    Hi Guys

    Im in need of assistance as i can’t get my head around something.

    I have 3 angles, all shot with time of day T/C. However, Cam 2 is 10 frames ahead of Cam 1, and Cam 3 is 10 behind Cam 1.

    Each of the 33 HDV tapes where recorded without stopping the tape, however upon ingesting, there seems to be some digital dropouts on some of the tapes, which have caused my single capture to be split into 2 to 6 takes (depending on the number of dropouts).

    I have been syncing up my single capture tapes by choosing an in point that has the above offset, but i am now coming to the multiple captures that have Cam 1-take 1 is 25 mins long, take 2 is 20 mins long, take 3 is 10 mins long, Cam 2-take 1 is 45 mins, take 2 is 10 mins and Cam 3 is xxxx and so on.

    This seems like it will be an night mare to sync right, because i have overlapping footage and i don’t want change Cam 2’s inpoint to sync up with Cam 1-take 1, 2 & 3?

    Can i multiclip a sequence? It would seem alot easier to lay all my Cam 1/2/3 takes into a seperate timeline and in order, and then sync up those.

    Is this possible?

    Cheers
    M.

    Max Huggett replied 16 years, 10 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Ian Liuzzi-fedun

    July 10, 2009 at 2:43 am

    I do not believe that you can Multiclip a sequence but if you have them all lined up you can export them as such and then re import them and multiclip away. Additionally, multiclip can be very, very frustrating especially with dropouts and what not. I have spent days getting things synched with 8-12 cameras. If you need more help, post back

  • Max Huggett

    July 10, 2009 at 3:02 am

    Hi Ian

    Thanks for your post. Yeah…im pulling my hair out at the moment, I have multiclip sequenced my Cam 1’s and they all line up in chronlogical order. Same with Cams 2 and 3. But i just can’t figure out how to now multicam the 3 Multiclip Sequences…………..

    For the sake of the post, i only listed a small example of the what i am up against. I have over 33 hours of HDV, with plenty of dropouts and subsequently plenty of clips.

    So your best advice would be to render out the MultiClip sequence for each of the cams. Could i do a QT ref file? and does it keep timecode?

    Any other suggestions would be extremely welcome.

    Thanks alot
    m.

  • Mark Raudonis

    July 10, 2009 at 10:46 am

    You may want to try this: https://singularsoftware.com/autosync/

    It’s software that syncs by audio waveform, NOT timecode. Of course you need to have a common
    audio signal on all sources, but usually that’s the case.

    Good luck.

    mark

  • Ian Liuzzi-fedun

    July 10, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    This is cool stuff

  • David Bogie

    July 10, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    [Max Huggett] “So your best advice would be to render out the MultiClip sequence for each of the cams. Could i do a QT ref file? and does it keep timecode? “

    I’m jumping in with not so useful information.
    The amount of material you have to conform and then edit is daunting but, in the end, getting each camera’s output assembled to frame accuracy and then creating new media is probably the best approach. The new media can easily be brought into a multiclip session.

    Here’s what I’d do although i have no idea if this suits your needs or meets your producer’s expectations:
    Create a separate sequence for each camera. Bring in all of the clips and move them around till they create a seamless shot. You may need to insert some slugs to cover gaps. Export this clip as a self-contained movie. You will export the sequence with its own timecode and you obviously want each of the separate camera’s sequences to have the exact same starting timecode point.

    Be sure to check several points each hour to make sure all of the cameras are remaining synced. They won’t because time of day is notoriously slippery. You will need to use one camera as the master and sync all the others to it. I’d do this by bringing in the Camera 1 exported media and using that as the click track for assembling camera 2’s and camera 3’s disparate clips.

    (If you must maintain code from the original tapes, this will not work. You will need to make coherent dubs of your tapes to guarantee intact code.)

    I do not understand how you can get 33 hours of material without starting and stopping to change tapes but that’s another story.

    bogiesan

  • Max Huggett

    July 10, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Thanks for the advice guys.

    I have not got my head fully around what bogiesan has just recommeneded. I have the weekend to think about it.

    I meant to also write that the 33 hours are from 33 tapes, so stopping recording to change tapes was quite frequent.
    Thanks guys

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