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  • help with a noisey key

    Posted by Jonas Espinoza on March 17, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    hi there

    if anyone with more keylight experience than me could lend a hand, i am at my wits end with the noise in the blacks.

    this was shot with HDV, not by me, but everything else is keying reasonably, but somehow this guys sweatshirt is really noisey and flickery.

    here is the link for the footage/project
    and thanks in advance!

    1. Download Link: Click here to download file
    https://rapidshare.com/files/364713378/noisey_key.zip.html
    MD5: C10330DFDE1437D890E078A15004EC41

    Joey Foreman replied 16 years, 2 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Michael Szalapski

    March 17, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    Security reasons where I work prohibit me from downloading your file from rapidshare, but I can link you to some useful stuff on getting better keylight keys.
    Great info here and here. You might also consider using this method on all your keys.

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  • Jonas Espinoza

    March 17, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    thanks dave, but the thing is i still get the horrible noise in the blacks on the movie i output for this troubleshoot, which was quicktime PNG transcoded from the HDV sources (i know, not ideal. i got brought in to amimate some stuff around it. the keying, the client assumed, would be the easy part)

  • Jonas Espinoza

    March 18, 2010 at 1:39 am

    thanks for the links, its good stuff, but most of it i know already

    it keys ok on all the other interviews shot with the same camera on the same green screen.

    somehow, the dark gray sweatshirt this guy is wearing is super noisey after applying the key.

    would anyone have a second to have a look? thanks

  • Joey Foreman

    March 18, 2010 at 2:38 am

    You’ll get the best results by combining a core matte and an edge matte, and using that as a luma track matte for the original footage. With the core matte filled completely, you’ll be left with the original shirt underneath, so there can’t possibly be more noise than on the unmatted footage.
    There are step-by-step instructions for how to do this here:

    https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/2/974490

    If the original footage has the noise, you can use the same track matte in combo with an adjustment later to which Remove Grain has been applied. If the talent moves a lot you may have to rotoscope some masks on the the non-grainy areas to prevent the loss of too much detail.

    If the noise is predominant at the edges, you can add some pre-blur in keylight on the edge matte.

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