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  • Help! Weird render problem!

    Posted by Jeff Nelson on July 8, 2006 at 8:56 pm

    This is very strange. I’m using Premiere Pro 1.5, I have 2.0 and am waiting to upgrade until I’m finished with a couple things I’m working on. I am currently exporting to movie a couple things I edited. I’m having trouble with 2, one that’s about 15 minutes, the other is 25 minutes. When I select “Export to Movie” and have it do the work area, it correctly lists the number of frames in the project and starts rendering. At about 78%, it stops, and thinks it’s finished. But the avi it’s created is, of course, only 78% of the show! This is happening on both the 15 and 25 minute pieces. Not on the shorter things I’ve done, which went fine.

    When I try to do it again, it asks to overwrite the avi I just created, I click Okay, and then it beeps like it’s done the whole thing, it’s done. I have to reboot my XP box and restart Premiere, and the same thing happens — it only renders about 79% of the show, then beeps like it’s done, but I’m watching the progress bar and it shows that it stopped 20% before the actual end of the thing.

    Any ideas? Should I reinstall Premiere Pro 1.5 to see if that helps?

    I was thinking I could export this onto tape, which works, and then capture it again, and then try again. I’m trying to get this into an avi so I can use another program to encode it for DVD. Thanks for any suggestions. This is a serious problem.

    Harm Millaard replied 19 years, 10 months ago 3 Members · 9 Replies
  • 9 Replies
  • Alec Eves

    July 10, 2006 at 10:57 am

    Sorry if this is an obvious suggestion, but it got me once before.
    Have you checked that you haven’t run out of disk space.

  • Jeff Nelson

    July 10, 2006 at 4:13 pm

    Thanks, that’s not the problem. Weird thing is, I can render it as a microsoft avi and it renders fine, but trying to render as a canopus DV format (which is what it’s in) and it stops after a certain time. I worked around it by exporting the thing in parts and then editing it together, and the exporting that. I’m thinking that maybe because I had color corrected and rendered every shot in the timeline, that maybe the thing was too big, was using too much ram? And that was why it wouldn’t render complete? (while it would render when I outputted it in three pieces and edited those together.)

    Anyhow, I think it’s time to get a more powerful computer, is probably the problem…

  • Harm Millaard

    July 10, 2006 at 6:52 pm

    Why use the Canopus codec? Do you happen to use a Storm, Rex or Raptor card? If so, then that is where your problem lies. Use the old DVConverter utility to change the AVI wrapper from Canopus to MS-DV, get rid of any Canopus capture card and you will likely have left your troubles behind.

    Harm Millaard

  • Jeff Nelson

    July 10, 2006 at 6:57 pm

    Okay, now this is interesting. Yes, I have a Storm 2 card, and weird stuff does happen which I’ve found time-consuming workarounds. So you think I should dump the card? What is “the old DVConverter utility?” And how do I use it to change the AVI wrapper from Canopus to MS-DV?

    Thanks.

  • Harm Millaard

    July 10, 2006 at 7:30 pm

    The DVStorm IMO has a perfect functionality as a doorstopper, but not as a capture card with PP 1.5. Their driver caused too much problems and they have stopped support for PP 2.0. I’ve torn it out ages ago and never looked back.

    DVConverter was a utility on their website to convert the wrapper on AVI files. AFAIK they have removed it from their website.

    If you can’t find it anymore, you can try this link:

    https://www.millcon.nl/Harm/Canopus.txt

    After downloading and saving it to disk, change the file extension from TXT to EXE and run the file.

    Good luck.

    Harm Millaard

  • Jeff Nelson

    July 10, 2006 at 7:47 pm

    Thanks, Harm. As soon as I’m done with these current things, I’ll take your advice and jettison the Storm card while upgrading to PP 2.0. What exactly does it mean to “change the AVI wrapper from Canopus to MSDV?” What does this program actually do? Sorry, I’m not familiar with the terminology or understand exactly what this program does for me that you’ve linked to.

  • Harm Millaard

    July 10, 2006 at 8:12 pm

    Every DV AVI file has a wrapper, think of it a a book wrapped in gift paper. If you go to store A, you get a wrapper indicating store A, but if you got the same book at store B, the wrapper indicates store B as the source. The book inside the wrapper is exactly the same. The wrappers used for DV AVI files are very much similar. What the program does is exchanging the paper wrapper from store A and replacing it with a wrapper from store B, but leaving the same book inside. Nothing is changed in the contents, but the packaging is adjusted to the flavor the NLE likes better.

    Another analogy, buy your wife/partner/girlfriend a purse. Would she prefer you coming in with this gift to come from Marks & Spencer, Harrods or Gucci? That is the wrapper.

    The program allows you to batch convert from wrapper A to B.

    Hope this explains it somewhat.

    Harm Millaard

  • Jeff Nelson

    July 10, 2006 at 8:17 pm

    Thanks, Harm. Now I have a much better idea. Seems that I may not need to run this since, once I finish what I’m working on now (in canopus), I’ll dump all footage off the machine, dump the storm card, uninstall the storm software, upgrade to PP 2.0, and I’m good to go. No? No need to change any wrappers since I’ll only be importing new footage from there forward. Am I correct?

    Thanks for your time, Harm.

  • Harm Millaard

    July 10, 2006 at 8:48 pm

    Absolutely.

    Harm Millaard

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