help! Unkown recorded format – SONY HVR-V1

[Jeremy Garchow]

Well, no. 24p and 24pA both get recorded in a 60i stream. It’s just a different pulldown pattern is all. 24pA is also known as 24p Advanced and still gets recorded 60i. When you get back to the studio tomorrow, check out the pulldown pattern and we’ll go from there. If you need help with that, post back when you are in front of computer.

Jeremy

[Caroline Leone]

ok, will do.
thanks for the explanation.

i just saw a post by my assistant down here!
(by Fernanda Pires de Sá on Apr 21, 2008 at 7:23:16 pm how to know if the format of the video has filmed in 1080i or 1080p? )
she didn’t explain quite well our problem, but gave a try.
and you were kind enough to reply.

thank you very much.

[Jeremy Garchow]

Hey, no worries. Talk to you soon. You say you are doing tape to tape, will that be from the orig HDV tapes? What system?

Jeremy

[Caroline Leone]

yes, from the hdv tapes.
what system you mean in post production? The tape to tape will be done in HD, 2K, then transfer to film.

🙂

[Jeremy Garchow]

Just got to get the pulldown sorted out before you start your DI.

[Rafael Amador]

[Caroline Leone] “he V1E is both pal and ntsc.”
The camera is not NTSC neither PAL. Is just HDV.
Probably the only difference between the HVR-V1E and the HVR-V1U is in the battery charger. One will works for 220v/50Hz and the other for 125V/60Hz.

Mac OX 10.5.2-FC 6.02-QT 7.4.1
G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM-BlackMagic Extreme
PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM-AJA ioHD
JVC DTV-17″
SONY EX-1 . SONY PD170
..and always a big mess on top of the table.

[Jorge Molina]

I edited 16 chapters of a an online fiction series in Spain (Chica busca Chica). It was done with a couple of V1 (hdv 1080 25p). we lost a couple of hours trying to get the camera recognised by Final Cut. I was warned that Final Cut would have a hard time getting to recognise the format, and so it happened and suddenly for no apparent ‘logic’ reason it started working the director told me that it had happened like that previously in two other jobs he had done in another company…

Suddenly it works… We had this problem whenever a new V1 was used for the first time….

works on FCP/M100/AVID/AE/SHAKE/COMBUSTION/

[Carlos Braun]

Hey Jeremy,
I am the director of the film in question… thanks for helping us, Caroline my editor and myself… we´ve been talking to a bunch of people and I personally, who am a little Fred Flinstone when it comes to these tech specs, have the feeling that there is a bunch of crossed information. Basically we had two problems: 1, identifying if the images were recorded in 24 or 24A (which I guess mean 24p and 24pA). Then, the issue would be how to preset the Project/timeline/etc… on the FCP to edit this material. I spent a couple of hours today with a technician in a finishing house analyzing the material, and these were his conclusions:
When we preset everything @ 24fps in FCP and dragged the captured clip into the timeline, a warning appeared asking us to check if the presets were in accordance with the recorded material and asking if we wanted to change that. When we said yes, the clip in the timeline ran @ 30fps. When we said no, it ran @ 24fps… Analyzing the clip frame by frame, apparently there was no problem with saying no and having it @ 24fps but this guy told me that every four or five frames there was a frame that had less quality, and he thought that was because FCP was dowing the full down or down convert or whatever from the 30fps to the 24fps… When we recaptured it with the presets @ 30fps, and dragged the clip, no warning appeared and the clip played fine at 30fps (with interlacing every 5 frames)… his diagnosis was that this project was shot at 24pA, therefore the camera captured at 24fps but recorded @ 30fps (which for me didnt make much sense) so he told me to just go ahead and edit with the presets at 30fps and that eventually, down the line, in post, before the 35mm transfer, I´d have to do something in a finishing house to remove these extra frames and get pure 24frames for 35mm transfer… It all sounds very confusing to me, especially since no one here seems to give me a 100% firm answer… People who have the Sony HDV V1 have experienced similar problems.. I appreciate all help…

Carlos

[Jeremy Garchow]

Hello Carlos.

Well, it appears that the 24pA mode of the V1U really stands far 24p Scan A and not 24p Advanced of which I am more familiar. What this means is that the camera will keep the pulldown in mode in tact across starts and stops in the camera allowing for a seamless 3:2 pulldown across the tape.

I imagine if you use the HDV 1080p24 or the HDV AppleProRes 422 1080p24 easy setups, your footage will get captured @ 23.98. Give it a shot and post back.

Jeremy