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Help. SD Project looks horrible on HD monitor
Posted by Ally Shore on December 4, 2009 at 6:07 amI wasn’t sure where else to post this…so I’m hoping someone here as an answer. I shot a project in 24p on a Panasonic HDV200 in standard Def. The finished project looks great in the Canvas, beautiful on my Sony Studio SD monitor. Here’s the issue…when I burn the DVD it looses some chroma but looks great on the Sony Monitor, however if I try showing it on an HDTV it looks horrible. Colors are way over saturated, some artifacts appear…ech. Any thoughts?
Thanks
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Shane Ross
December 4, 2009 at 6:10 amHVX-200…not HDV.
How the DVD looks on your TV depends on the upscaling ability of the DVD player or TV you have. If they do a bad job, then it will look bad. Now, I don’t know what is better for what, or how to make it better…I just know this by listening to Leo Laporte…
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Andrew Evans
December 4, 2009 at 7:22 amWell of course sd isn’t going to look great on a hdtv. I run into the same problem. I don’t know what your situation is but it is an hvx, shoot HD.
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Rick Lavon
December 4, 2009 at 1:58 pmI feel your pain..I am also seeing artifacts, etc on a Sharp Aquos..but when I view the same DVD on a good SD monitor it’s fine. (Letterboxed 4×3, not upscaled) And I tried it on a new Westinghouse HD and although better, was not perfect. I am sure it has to do with the upscaling limitations of the monitor
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Ally Shore
December 4, 2009 at 2:54 pmthanks for the feedback. It was late and a typo was made on the camera name. As for shooting HD, I knew I had to mix with a great deal of non HD and coupled with the delivery requirements for this project, it seemed to make sense to do this project SD. I’m just going to ask them to setup the monitors to compensate for the SD and lower the saturation and video levels.
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Mark Maness
December 4, 2009 at 5:17 pmWhat you are seeing is the compression artifacting issues. Any time you shoot in SD or HD and shoot using a codec other than Uncompressed, you have to use something with compression added.
In SD video, when you shot your project you shot it DVCPro 25mbit, right? Well, keep in mind that HD has approximately four times the resolution of SD video, therefore you are going to see the compression artifacts when looking on an HD monitor.
The ONLY way to get around this is to shoot in HD or capture all of your footage in a best compression scheme such as ProRes422 or Uncompressed.
You’ll NEVER see an SD DVD look pristine on an HD monitor. Even upconverting SD DVD thru a BluRay player will show artifacts. You can minimize this by compressing your media for DVD at a high bit rate but you take the risk of not being able to read the DVD on any DVD player. Its a trade-off.
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David Roth weiss
December 4, 2009 at 7:34 pm[Wayne Carey] “You’ll NEVER see an SD DVD look pristine on an HD monitor.”
Wayne,
I hate to take exception, but you’re over-generalizing a tad when you say “NEVER.” In fact, some HD monitors actually do a terrific job of displaying SD, but, of course, many do not.
Most people, even very knowledgeable production and post professionals, simply do not test the SD display characteristics of a monitor before buying. The vast majority of purchasers will watch playback of beautiful HD material, then they they will fork over their money and hang the panel on the wall, only to be shocked when they discover that SD looks like crap. Whose fault is that?
If you don’t believe me, just go to your nearest Samsung dealer and watch SD on one of their 240hz models and tell me that doesn’t absolutely exceptional. There are many non-240hz displays that also do a very good job, but you have to shop to find them.
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