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HELP lost sound source TC referenz
Posted by Elsa Kampen on April 15, 2008 at 12:21 pmHi there,
I just switched from Avid to FCP and I have a question about synchronizing.
I synchronized two ways. I merged clips and created new clips out of the timeline by dragging them linked into the browser. Both ways I mysteriously lost the reference to the original source-sound TC. I can’t match frame to the source sound clip. Is there a solution?
The soundman of my next project recorded the sound-TC on the second sound track of the varicam. I couldn’t figure out how read out this information? Is there a trick?Desperatly hoping for help
thank you
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Steven Gonzales
April 15, 2008 at 2:01 pmI think if you match back to a merged clip, you don’t match all the way to the original. I believe the merged clip serves as a new master clip. Both your methods of syncing are creating merged clips.
If the original audio timecode was on the file when it came into Final Cut, you should still have it. Check Edit menu, item properties, format and see if the audio file information is on there.
As far as getting LTC timecode from an audio track, there is a tool for that:
https://www.videotoolshed.com/?page=products&pID=26
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Elsa Kampen
April 15, 2008 at 3:58 pmThank you for your reply Steven,
I hope the tool is helping me.
Unfortunatly this is not helping me with the sound referenz problem. The merged clips I have created even imply the original Source TC(which I can control in the TC overlays) but if I want to trace back to the original clips its not possible as soon as I merge the clips. As long as I leave the synchronized clip unmerged in the timeline I can match back to both picture and sound. But if I drag it from there into the browser, the referenz to the soundfile is gone. And it is not possible to output an EDL including the soundclips.
So I am doubting that I am still on the save side just in case my disk gets on fire and my project is offline. -
Steven Gonzales
April 15, 2008 at 7:57 pmIf you have merged clips in your timeline, and you make a copy of that timeline, and delete the video and the orig video audio track(s) leaving only the sync audio, I believe you will get the audio timecode in that EDL.
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Elsa Kampen
April 15, 2008 at 8:11 pmThanks a lot steven,
I’ll try that soon. The software that you recommended works fine. After importing the files into FCP I have the infomation I want in the Aux TC column. The only problem: is there a way to make FCP include this information in the Timecode overlay window? When I navigate in the clip I can’t see the actual Aux TC anywhere. Could you help me out with that as well?
Greetings from Berlin
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Steven Gonzales
April 15, 2008 at 8:50 pmThere’s no easy way to display auxiliary timecode in the Canvas. You could go into each clip, and if you uncheck the main timecode, and leave the auxiliary timecode checked, the auxiliary will appear in overlays (BUT you will lose your original timecode).
You could add a timecode generator to each clip, and set that to aux timecode, and then you could see the aux in the burn in and the normal timecode in the overlay, but that is a lot of work.
I’m glad to assist someone in Berlin, because I’ve never been there, but two movies I edited were successful at the Berlin Film Festival, “George Washington” in 2000 and “Shotgun Stories” in 2007.
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Elsa Kampen
April 15, 2008 at 9:35 pmHi Steven,
unfortunatly I didn’t see your movies by chance! Thanks again for your reply. It seems to me that it is not of much use to use the Aux Tc in FCP. And not really worth to pay 180 dollars for the programm. Anyway thanks a lot for your help.
bye
Elsa
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