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  • Help in render settings for my deliverable file

    Posted by Jeff Bonano on January 9, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    Ok, before I go completely bald from pulling my hair out and since I can’t find the solution in other similar posts, Let’s see if anyone can help me.

    Right, so…I have to put some deliverables together that include a master in either .avi or .mov. They want it to match the sequence/timeline dimensions but every combination of codecs and settings I’ve tried don’t come up with the quality of what a master file should be unless I render out with no codec and end up with a 18gig sized file.

    Windows 7
    Premier CS4
    Adobe Media Encoder
    HDV sequence at 1440×1080. Shot in 1080p 29.97fps
    total length is about 1 min. 42 sec.

    Master needs to be in HD format at 1440×1080 progressive and can either be .avi or .mov.

    I can’t figure out what combination of codec vs. other settings I should render at to make it look good and un-squashed. I think I’m getting so frustrated that I’m even forgetting the basics of rendering her and need to breath and just ask for help from an outside source so that I can see what it is that I’m simply over looking. Any suggestions?

    Thanks in advance!

    Jeff Bonano
    http://www.bonanoproductions.com

    “I want to have a cool quote at the bottom of my signature, just like everyone else on the cow forum!” -Jeff Bonano

    Jeff Bonano replied 16 years, 3 months ago 2 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Bob Dix

    January 10, 2010 at 12:24 am

    Jeff,

    We had a minor problem with rendering a timeline of mov. files from a Canon EOS 5D mark II ie. mov @ 1920 x 1080. We Exported to Movie and changed the speed to 25 fps to suit the Canon HV20 PAL which runs at 25pfs. Premiere Pro Cineform changed the mov. files to Cineform avi and for 1 hour project it took some hours.

    The resulting file was about 125 GB and we had to cut in half to Export to tape to play on a Sony Bravia 46′ High def TV.

    Ps. We also chaged the Firewire which was causing some connection problems with a new IEEE 1394A Card and solved the problem of the Export to tape braking down after 37 mins. And did the transcode in two parts.

    The result was stunning apart from some pixel lag in the odd fast moving scenes. But, not bad on a Pentium 4 3.2GHZ @ 800 fsb and 2GB RAM Multi-processor which as my tech said was now a dinasour, but, it works. Ps. We had a problem of the Canon HV2 LCD saying after 37 minutes “Check DV/HDV Input” but, we just transcoded the last 23 min of project and Exported to tape without a join ????????

    Ps We also changed the Firewire IEEE1394A card to improve the above losing connection, there had been intermittent problems with the HDV Input cutting off mid Transfer of timeline

  • Bob Dix

    January 10, 2010 at 12:29 am

    Jeff,

    We had a minor problem with rendering a timeline of mov. files from a Canon EOS 5D mark II ie. mov @ 1920 x 1080. We Exported to Movie and changed the speed to 25 fps to suit the Canon HV20 PAL which runs at 25pfs. Premiere Pro Cineform changed the mov. files to Cineform avi and for 1 hour project it took some hours.

    The resulting file was about 125 GB and we had to cut in half to Export to tape to play on a Sony Bravia 46′ High def TV.

    The result was stunning apart from some pixel lag in the odd fast moving scenes. But, not bad on a Pentium 4 3.2GHZ @ 800 fsb and 2GB RAM Multi-processor which as my tech said was now a dinasour, but, it works. Ps. We had a problem of the Canon HV2 LCD saying after 37 minutes “Check DV/HDV Input” but, we just transcoded the last 23 min of project and Exported to tape without a join ????????

  • Jeff Bonano

    January 10, 2010 at 5:46 am

    So, I’m confused. How can I solve my problem? Do I need to take my large file and split it then re-render it or something? I’m not sure what the solution is to that…sorry.

    …I actually have a choice of sending my deliverables on DVD or through FTP. Since I have to do both a master and a split without grafix, plus just audio all in one folder, I pretty much have to keep it down to one DVD disk or small enough to send everything FTP.

    Jeff Bonano
    http://www.bonanoproductions.com

    “I want to have a cool quote at the bottom of my signature, just like everyone else on the cow forum!” -Jeff Bonano

  • Bob Dix

    January 10, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    Jeff,

    We split an hour project on the timeline mainly for Export to Tape at High definition, but, if you render to DVD you may not have to consider this as the file has been reduced in size by the media decoder.
    I think our problem is the size of our processor but, your’s seems to be more than adequate

  • Bob Dix

    January 10, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    In retrospect all I can suggest that you go into Export to Movie and change what you want to do in there.
    An old up-date which should be on the Adobe Support site under adobe premiere Pro 1.5.1 Read me dated Feb,2005 may be helpfull HDV export to Movie: Choose the ‘Cineform HDV format AVI” file type etc, the transcoding and rendering is done automatically.

    All the best.

  • Bob Dix

    January 10, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    Might be a good idea to render the timeline as is,then go to> Export to Movie> but, I would not attempt to transcode to mov as the files give us a headache

  • Jeff Bonano

    January 10, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    Thanks Bob,

    I’ll give it a shot and see what happens. If it works, I’ll post my findings on here for future readers.

    Jeff Bonano
    http://www.bonanoproductions.com

    “I want to have a cool quote at the bottom of my signature, just like everyone else on the cow forum!” -Jeff Bonano

  • Jeff Bonano

    January 17, 2010 at 11:17 pm

    Ok, so I worked and I worked and I worked…but to no avail! Trying everyone’s suggestions, nothing seemed to fix the problem. I even did searches to see if others had similar problems and I could not find an answer to even their problems…until now!

    …In a desperate attempt to get things done, I tried to dynamic link Premiers project file to After Effects thinking that Adobe Media Encoder was just not stable. After adjusting the comp to to display the proper settings, I sent the comp to the render queue. Tried a few different codecs including Cinepak and bam! It worked!

    So in short using Encoder works for many encoding processes, but if it seems to be unstable in any of your final outputs, try using the dynamic link through After Effects (which might take longer, but has a higher success rate) to render out the project. While some codecs don’t do well with any of the programs, I would suggest you try this step before you smash your computer with a baseball bat!

    Happy Rendering Everyone…finally 🙂

    Jeff Bonano
    http://www.bonanoproductions.com

    “I want to have a cool quote at the bottom of my signature, just like everyone else on the cow forum!” -Jeff Bonano

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