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  • HELP! Firewire Drive KAPUT!

    Posted by Richard Snyder on February 21, 2006 at 5:55 am

    OK so Final Cut Pro wouldn’t shut down by itself, so I Force Quit – still didn’t work. I shut down the computer – it wouldn’t shut down. So I manually shut down the machine by holding the power button down until the machine shut off.

    When the machine shut off, so did the firewire drive. The firewire drive is plugged into its own AC outlet. Flipping the i/o switch on the firewire drive did nothing. I calmly freaked out, then turned the computer back on. The firewire drive came on as well.

    Only now my firewire bus sees an “unknown device” as opposed to the 100-plus hours of footage captured on the external hard drive.

    I require a solution that does not make me kill all my furniture (yes I mean kill). I really like my furniture, you see, we’ve been getting along so well for quite a while now.

    Ahh yes, the blindness. I can barely see my hands for the rage setting in. Please tell me there’s some program I don’t know about that will fix this most horrible of problems ever.

    Sincerely,
    Future Furniture Killer

    Dave Mac replied 20 years, 2 months ago 7 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Richard Snyder

    February 21, 2006 at 6:01 am

    **UPDATE**

    I tried to shut down the computer normally – it did, but the firewire drive shut down as well! While it was still plugged in to its own outlet! I turned the computer back on, and the drive came on with it!

    If this helps those of you who have a clue, please enjoy.

  • Richard Snyder

    February 21, 2006 at 6:20 am

    So it turns out that a certain someone (definitely NOT ME) unplugged the firewire drive from its outlet. I’ll be giving that certain someone (in the mirror) an extremely stern talking-to.

    On a side note, the firewire port in one’s computer can supply its own power to external hard drives! Good thing, considering what might have happened to the drive had the plug come out without a backup power source.

    Well, looks like I’ll be hittin’ the ol’ dusty trail….

    Sincerely,
    Furniture-Lovin’ Guy Who’s Gonna Go Get a Drink

  • Dean Sensui

    February 21, 2006 at 9:30 am

    Richard…

    An audio engineer friend had, as the first step on his diagnostic list: Is it plugged in?

    As basic as it sounds, it was on his list because it’s something he’d overlooked before.

    I have a compact “pocket” firewire drive that takes power via the 6-pin firewire cable. Larger drives no doubt require a power supply to run but hopefully what little power came through the cable might have saved your data.

    Good luck!

    Dean Sensui — http://www.HawaiiGoesFishing.com

  • Chris Tompkins

    February 21, 2006 at 1:20 pm

    I have taken a drive OUT of a firewire incloser b/4 when an ext. firewire drive failed. The drive still works fine and is now an internal drive. This was a IDE drive in a G4
    FWIW

  • Arnie Schlissel

    February 21, 2006 at 3:56 pm

    [Dean Sensui] “An audio engineer friend had, as the first step on his diagnostic list: Is it plugged in?”

    And I bet his 2nd question was, “Is it turned on?” Just those 2 questions will solve something like 60-80% of all tech support issues!

    Arnie
    https://www.arniepix.com

  • Debe

    February 21, 2006 at 4:19 pm

    And it might not be a bad idea to have a copy of Disk Warrior around in case there is a next time…

    If you had actually had a fried B-tree, DW may have bought it back. When you need it, it’s invaluable, and having to run out and find it when you’re in the middle of a crisis is a huge drag…

    debe

  • Dean Sensui

    February 21, 2006 at 7:09 pm

    [Arniepix] “And I bet his 2nd question was, “Is it turned on?”

    That’s EXACTLY right! 🙂

    Dean Sensui — http://www.HawaiiGoesFishing.com

  • Kevin Monahan

    February 21, 2006 at 9:12 pm

    Always unmount your FireWire drives before shutting down to prevent a fried B-Tree. If I were you, when I could not force quit FCP, I can still get to the desktop to unmount that drive.

    Not many realize the importance of unmounting drives before shut down, before it’s too late. Then, only DiskWarrior can save you- and even then, it doesn’t always work.

    Kevin Monahan
    Take My FCP Master’s Seminar!
    fcpworld.com

  • Dave Mac

    February 24, 2006 at 7:12 pm

    Kevin’s advice is true, but it misses an important detail. When you normally shutdown your Mac, all drives are dismounted as part of that process.

    Some external FW drives, namely LaCie, will also power down when they sense no power coming from the Mac. Others require you to manually power down the device. LaCie drives (at least my 3 d2 models) will also power up when you turn on your Mac.

    It might be better to say that when you wish to power down your FW drives, in order to disconnect them, while your computer is still on, you should first eject/unmount the volumes corresponding to those drives.

    -Dave

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