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  • Help Buying Mac Pro

    Posted by Mat Major on February 23, 2010 at 10:44 am

    I’m looking to buy a new editing suite. I’ve looked on apple and there new MAC pro now has a 8 core 2.26Ghz. Is this really necessary? especially since when editing multiple layers of HD video its the RAM that’s doing most of the work, i think… Basically I want to edit and encode lots of video as fast as possible. Is it better to buy a fast quad core (2.66GHz – 3GHz) or a slow 8 Core 2.26GHz?

    Russell Lasson replied 16 years, 2 months ago 6 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Jeremy Garchow

    February 23, 2010 at 2:43 pm

    Slow 8. Check barefeats.com for speed tests. Ram helps, but nothing makes FCP move faster than more processors.

  • Will Salley

    February 23, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    I completely agree with Jeremy. I wish I had even more processors. When encoding or rendering from After Effects, rendering 3D from Cinema 4D, or encoding from Compressor, having as many processors work on things at once is the only way to go. I use two 8-core machines to render with and I need more! One thing, in AFter Effects, you need around 3GB of RAM per processor for best performance. The other apps are better at distributed processing and can have less RAM installed.

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  • Paul Kondo

    February 23, 2010 at 3:58 pm

    If you’re doing a lot of h.264 encoding, then you could also consider something like the Elgato Turbo encoder or a Matrox CompressHD card.

    https://www.elgato.com/elgato/int/mainmenu/products/Accessories/Turbo264HD/product1.en.html

    https://www.matrox.com/video/en/products/mac/compresshd/

    I don’t have either of these but I’ve been doing a lot of research in the past week that includes this type of functionality. You can find a bunch of reviews on both and they seem to be highly regarded.

    Paul

  • Jeremy Garchow

    February 23, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    The elgato is really sweet. If you have an 8 core, though, it’s negligible if you setup a virtual cluster.

    For laptops, though, it can’t be beat.

    Jeremy

  • Roli Rivelino

    February 23, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    Yeah if money’s not a problem go for an 8 core, you can always get more RAM down the line, but swapping your processor, it’s not so easy I believe. I have a quad and wish I had an 8.

    good luck and happy editing.

    aka Newbie Wan Kenewbie. “The young Newbie, is now a Padawon.”

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  • Paul Kondo

    February 23, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    Jeremy,

    I had heard from a friend that had the Elgato that oddly, the better the machine, the less impact it has. Interesting to hear your comment. That’s good to know. I wonder where the break-even point is. Time for me to do some research!

    Paul

  • Mat Major

    February 23, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Sorry should have said I only really use Final Cut Studio. I do use motion quite a bit with HD video and am experiencing most of my performance problems using this program.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    February 23, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    [Paul Kondo] “I wonder where the break-even point is. “

    If you have an 8core MacPro, Id’ say there’s no reason for it. I bought it for my laptop for on sight dailies right out of P2Flow and and it’s totally cool in that regard.

    https://mxf4mac.com/images/stories/downloads/p2-proxy-creation.mov

    Jeremy

  • Paul Kondo

    February 23, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    That is pretty slick. At first, I couldn’t figure out what I was watching for on that movie because I don’t know what P2 Flow is. But then watching it all the way through, I was pretty amazed.

    I have a 2 x 2.66 Dual Core machine. But I’ll probably get a Matrox MXO2 Mini with MAX on it so I don’t need this Elgato thingy.

    I’m almost tempted to buy this thing though just to carry it around from job to job and impress the client!

    Paul

  • Russell Lasson

    February 24, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    I’ve always been a fan of more processors. Intel is suppose to announce a new processor soon with six cores sometime in March. It’s the Intel i7 970x. If Apple decides to pick it up, that would make their Mac Pro systems have 12 physical processors and 24 virtual processors. You’ll need a bigger screen just to see the different threads when you open Activity Monitor:)

    It isn’t for sure that Apple’s going to do anything with this processor, but I think the chances are petty good that within a few weeks from now, there could be a different line up in the Mac Pro category. This could make the current 8-core models less expensive too. If you can wait for mid-March, it might be worth it for you. Then again, you might just be going three more weeks depriving yourself of a nice speedy computer.

    -Russ

    Russell Lasson
    Colorist/Digital Cinema Specialist
    Color Mill
    Salt Lake City, UT
    http://www.colormill.net

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