HDX 1080p24 capturing in FCP quick verify question…

[Jeremy Garchow]

You have to capture and remove the pulldown. If you are getting 29.97 files, you have captured improperly. You should be editing in a 23.98 timeline.

The preset is marked as DVCPro HD 1080p24A. As long as your footage was truly shot @ 24pA and you are capturing via firewire with an AJ1400 deck, you should be good.

The name of the Compressor is 1080i60, don’t worry about that. It’s just the name of the codec.

Upgrading to FCP 6.0.2 is an easy upgrade (your render files don’t disappear on 6.0.1?) by the way. I am not telling you to upgrade, but I am just saying it’s not bad to do so.

Jeremy

[Bryan Roberts]

Yes, AJHD1400 deck – yes 1080p24a preset. There aren’t any other 24fps or 23.98fps 1080 settings so that’s kind of hard to mess up, I’m capturing through firewire. The DP owns a pair of these cameras along with several F900’s and tons of other equipment, the guy has shot some incredible material before so I doubt he forgot to set his frame rate to 23.98 but I guess it could be a possibility. Hmmmm, perhaps it’s a deck setting? I reset the deck to the factory settings before capturing, which should be sending out whatever frame rate the tape is natively correct? The pulldown is removed during capture correct?

Oh and the only issue I’ve been having with 6.0.1 is the damn audio render files jumping into different sections of songs so when originally I’d have a nice slow fade in at the beginning of song, it’ll fade into say the middle of a song, it’s quite frustrating sometimes…

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Bryan R] “which should be sending out whatever frame rate the tape is natively correct?”

Through fw, yes.

[Bryan R] “The pulldown is removed during capture correct? “

Should be, yes. Unless 6.0.1 couldn’t do this. I don’t know.

Double check the deck settings and make sure you 1080i out is playing 1080. Are you sure it’s 24pA and not 24p? What’s the pulldown pattern?

[Bryan Roberts]

I’m giving the DP a call this morning… but even if it’s 24p instead of 24pa, what easy setup would I use since none of the others list 1080p24…

Also really quick – I noticed that there’s no smart start stop embedded in the video or timecode breaks so I’m getting entire 30 minute tapes as a single clip. I usually have an assistant editor except this one was tight on a budget and when I have captured and logged my footage say using HDCAM decks in the past even with different DP’s, the HDCAM either had tiny TC breaks to indicate clip breaks or had the smart start stop thing. Any quick fix for that?

[Jeremy Garchow]

In that case you’d use the DVCPro HD 1080i60 easy setup.

Jeremy

[Bryan Roberts]

Would the frame rate still be listed as 29.97 or would it be 23.98 AND what would my timeline framerate be?

By the way, THANK YOU so much for your help, I could have been peddling around on this problem all day…

[Jeremy Garchow]

29.97, both media and timeline.

What does your pulldown pattern look like?

Jeremy

[Bryan Roberts]

To be honest, I have no idea how to check my pulldown pattern…

So if the media is supposed to be listed at 29.97 when it’s 24p then perhaps the 6 tapes I’ve captured so far are correct anyways, IF it’s 24p and not 24pa. With an intended delivery of television, wouldn’t it make sense to have just shot it in 24p?

[Jeremy Garchow]

When you go through your footage frame by frame, do you see a pattern of three whole frames (no interlacing) then two segmented frames (two frames with interlace jitter) then 3 whole then 2 segmented over and over? Or do you see 4 whole frames and 1 segmented?

Jeremy

[Tom Wolsky]

Load the clip in the viewer, set it to 100%, find a bit of motion, and step through it counting the frames with interlacing and the frames without. See if the pattern is 2:3:2:3, or 2:3:3:2.

All the best,

Tom

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