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  • HDV with NTSC Widescreen Output

    Posted by Andre Anthonio on April 2, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    I’m definitely at the end of my rope.

    I’ve been up for days reading through dozens of threads and can’t seem to find a solution to my problem.

    I shoot in HD, edit in Sony Vegas Pro 8 with NTSC Widescreen project settings, then output in NTSC Widescreen.

    BACKGROUND:

    I’m creating a video with transitions and affects including snapshots of video to which I add a hard flash transition and camera shutter sound for a nice look and sound.

    Both my project and media setting match my output settings but the video, before and after render, is not consistent. Instead of my edited video running smoothly with all edits and affects filling the same portion of the screen, the video goes from a large widescreen to a smaller widescreen which is highly undesirable.

    I’ve read through posts and changed my project settings to work within HD, then output in NTSC Widescreen Architech, and also I’ve experimented by clicking the “stretch video to fill output frame size” box, during the render process, but both these steps didn’t correct my problem.

    This is my first post and, believer me, I searched to see if the answer was out there on a previous thread before posting this one. So, please don’t beat me up for not having the correct language to better find a solution to my problem.

    Many thanks in advance to all.

    Andre Antonio
    PHATeFX Panama

    John Rofrano replied 17 years, 4 months ago 4 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Terry Esslinger

    April 2, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Don’t know what you are doing wrong but I just finsihed a similar project. Shot in HDV (NTSC) caotured in HDV (m2t I think) in Vegas 8.1. Project properties set to match the footage (which was all the same BTW)Matched project setting by using the little file icon and choosing a media clip. I then did all my editing which consisted mainly of a few cuts and dissolves and significant color correction through the entire project (a little over an hour in length) all done with HD time line. Then rendered to SD DVDA compliant Mian Concept MPEG 2 video stream and separate AC3 audio. The resultant file turned out great. I left it interlaced as it is destined for television viewing. Viewed on PC there is some evidence of interlace artifact (not much) which I AM HOPING will resolve when played on television. Have not had time to burn the DVD yet so ultimate satisfaction not achieved but looking good so far.
    BTW it took LESS THAN REAL TIME to render the video on my i7 box. This was my first render on this box and to say the least I am impressed.

    You apparently have some stills that you are using. I would take any event that was not the original video and do pan and crop and right click and select match output aspect.

  • Andre Anthonio

    April 2, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    Embarassing! Here’s the correct link.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5BiSx_W1qA

    Andre Antonio
    PHATeFX Panama

  • Kert

    April 2, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Set Project “NTSC DV Widescreen (720×480)” (not HD). Render MPG2 to “DVD architact NTSC widescreen video stream” and that should do it.
    I routinely use those setting for editing AVCHD and M2t footage and producing widesreen DVDs.
    jk

  • Kert

    April 2, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    PS. Also set DVDA to: Properties-> Ascpect ratio-> 16×9

  • Andre Anthonio

    April 2, 2009 at 11:50 pm

    Thanks so much for the few responses but, unfortunately, I’ve followed the counsel and still not been able to fix the problem. I’ve noticed, however, that when I “save snapshot to file”, it’s saving a JPEG and the attributes of that JPEG are 655 X 480 and not 720 X 480; although that, in and of itself, won’t correct the entire mismatch problem (I think). If you take a look at the video, which I’ve now enabled to be viewed as an embedded file, you can see how the video switches back and forth, like the video is being squished. Thanks for the help, guys.

    Andre Antonio
    PHATeFX Panama

  • John Rofrano

    April 3, 2009 at 2:30 am

    Hi Andre,

    In your original post you said:

    > I shoot in HD, edit in Sony Vegas Pro 8 with NTSC Widescreen project settings, then output in NTSC Widescreen.

    Just now you said:

    > when I “save snapshot to file”, it’s saving a JPEG and the attributes of that JPEG are 655 X 480 and not 720 X 480;

    That should not be happening. If your project is NTSC Widescreen and you set your preview to Best (Full) and use Snapshot to File, you should get a 873×480 PAR 1.0000 JPG file. If your snaps are 655×480 this is your problem. It’s too thin and getting stretched back out to widescreen.

    One thing to be clear about is that Snapshot to File uses the resolution of your video preview. If it is not set to Full, you will get less resolution. It sounds like your project was set to NTSC DV and not NTSC DV Widescreen when you did the snaps. That’s the only way they would be 655×480. You need to redo them at the full project resolution to fix the problem.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Andre Anthonio

    April 8, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Thanks men for the valuable input. John your input fixed most of my problems, although I didn’t realize I had multiple issues. Specifically, I didn’t know that “Snapshot to File uses the resolution of your video preview. If it is not set to Full, you will get less resolution.” Well, I started from scratch following your counsel and that worked very well(thank you). After that, however, I still had inconsistency with the transitions (hard flash) and other media (solid white) in that the rendered video would go back and forth from one video screen size to another (very undesirable). After spending more time with the project, I realized that each clip of my HDV video had to be set to 16:9 Widescreen mode which I originally thought the software (Sony Vegas) did automatically if your project settings were set accordingly — but it doesn’t. I then followed John and Terry’s advice, rendered using the “DVD archchitect NTSC Widescreen Video Stream” and that helped too. But, the first time I didn’t have audio and learned through multiple attempts that you have to choose the “custom” option and then check the box that says “include audio.” That fixed that problem. Finally, there’s another box during the rendering process that I clicked with seemed to help a lot… “Stretch Video to Output Frame Size.” All of this input from you guys really helped me get my project on track and I really appreciate the forum for being a great source for guidance. Thanks again guys!

    Andre Antonio
    PHATeFX Panama

  • John Rofrano

    April 8, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    You are very welcome. Glad it all worked out for you.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

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