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  • HDV to PAL to NTSC

    Posted by Joe Murray on November 3, 2006 at 12:55 pm

    Hi,
    This is all a bit of a mouthful but please bear with me:

    I’ve got a 1080 50i project and need PAL and NTSC versions of it.
    They will all end up on DVD. I’ve had a go
    BUT
    They all look dreadful. My workflow is this:
    EXPORT HDV movie. (it is a complex project so I don’t want to nest it – too slow)
    RE-Import HDV Movies.
    Paste HDV movie into PAL 8 (and/or 10) bit uncompressed timeline.
    Render timeline and EXPORT PAL 8 (and/or 10) bit uncompressed MOVIE.
    My reasoning for this is that if it is going to get heavily re-compressed for the DVD,
    I should start with the best quality possible.
    The trouble is that my PAL movie look kind of “fingery” sort of horizontal artifacts – obvious/ pixels.

    That’s just the PAL side of thing. NTSC gets worse. It just kills Compressors dead, but I’ll cross that bridge later.(trash preferences)

    Jings, sorry people, I’m even boring myself here.

    Ben Holmes replied 19 years, 6 months ago 3 Members · 2 Replies
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  • Walter Biscardi

    November 3, 2006 at 1:12 pm

    [Joe Murray] “That’s just the PAL side of thing. NTSC gets worse. It just kills Compressors dead, but I’ll cross that bridge later.(trash preferences)”

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  • Ben Holmes

    November 3, 2006 at 2:06 pm

    [Joe Murray] “EXPORT HDV movie. (it is a complex project so I don’t want to nest it – too slow)
    RE-Import HDV Movies.
    Paste HDV movie into PAL 8 (and/or 10) bit uncompressed timeline.
    Render timeline and EXPORT PAL 8 (and/or 10) bit uncompressed MOVIE.
    My reasoning for this is that if it is going to get heavily re-compressed for the DVD,
    I should start with the best quality possible.”

    Joe, any workflow that involves exporting, reimporting, dropping into different timeline and re-exporting gains you nothing. You can’t improve the quality of the original, and every step you mention re-compresses and re-encodes the footage. I understand where you’re coming from – but it just won’t help. In fact, it’ll probably make it worse as the formats are so different.

    Try encoding for DVD right off your HDV timeline – use the compressor pre-sets to do it.

    Finally: Next to your HDV original, DVD Mpeg 2 BITE$. Don’t over-estimate how good you can ever make it look – it’s just rubbish ol’ Mpeg 😉

    Ben

    Editec Broadcast Editing Ltd

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