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  • HDV TO KONA

    Posted by Jimmy M on April 25, 2006 at 11:04 pm

    If I have 50 hours of HDV footage 1080i to use in a doc and want to digitze into my quad -what is the lowest rez that I can digitize and still up rez later to the highest quality -I could always go into a facility later to up rez where there is more drive space ,I only have a teribite.
    I eventually want out. put in 1080i .I tried going in at DVC PRO 1080I but after 6 hours my tbite was almost full,
    My big worry is I do want to go in a certain quality and not beable to uprez to the best possible quality later.

    Jerry Alto replied 20 years, 1 month ago 6 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 26, 2006 at 2:18 am

    Why not offline in DV? 50 hours of dv footage will be just under 700 MB. You must leave room for renders/graphics. You might look into getting more storage.

  • Walter Biscardi

    April 26, 2006 at 5:55 am

    [Jimmy M] “If I have 50 hours of HDV footage 1080i to use in a doc and want to digitze into my quad -what is the lowest rez that I can digitize and still up rez later to the highest quality”

    There’s no correlation between your offline resolution and on-line resolution when it comes to quality. You’re going to re-capture your footage at the on-line resolution when the offline is done. So you can work in Offline-RT if you really wanted to and then re-capture your project at 1080i 10bit HD when you’re done. So the quality of your offline is wholly up to you.

    [Jimmy M] “My big worry is I do want to go in a certain quality and not beable to uprez to the best possible quality later.”

    Again, no correlation between how you capture for offline and how you re-capture for on-line. You do NOT want to try to up-rez and offline file by simply manipulating the image in FCP. You want to re-capture the footage in final HD.

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  • Jerry Alto

    April 26, 2006 at 7:06 am

    Jimmy- Check out this AJA HDV whitepaper- https://www.aja.com/pdf/support/AJA_whitepaper_HDV.pdf

    It gives some workflow suggestions that might help on your project. If you have the Kona and FCP 5 you could
    work in HDV native cuts only (I wouldn’t do any color correction or graphics compositing in HDV).

    A real advantage would be the ability to edit with HD external monitoring and small file sizes. You’ll then have the option of going back out SDI to HD Cam, DVCPro HD or even HDV native then on to your final online finishing.

    G5 Dual 3GB Ram
    FCP5 Studio
    External 1 TB SATA Raid 0
    Kona LH, Second system w AJA ioLA
    Sony Z-1

  • David Battistella

    April 26, 2006 at 3:41 pm

    Capture HDV.

    Edit HDV.

    Do not recapture, you will not gain anything. In fact you will loose quality compared to recompressing which is cleaner.

    see here:

    https://forums.creativecow.net/cgi-bin/new_page_wrapper.cgi?forumid=83&page=https://www.creativecow.net/articles/battistella_david/recapturing_HDV/index.html

    and read the sidebar by Luke at BMD.

    Media Manage the finished project to 10-bit uncompressed and color correct and output that finished project.

    Buy more firewire storage to handle the extra footage. You can easily capture all of the footage natively.

    Try pre-selecting some of the footage. Surely you can get it down to more managable hours upon the first screening.

    David

    Peace and Love 🙂

  • Dave Beaty

    April 29, 2006 at 2:45 pm

    I’ve been digitizing hours and hours of JVC HDV footage to my FCP5 system. Less space needed than DV at it’s 19Mb datarate. No need to load in at any other rez. The footage looks great in it’s native format. Of course 24p isn’t supported in FCP with 720p HDV. We shoot 30p. I have video playback set to Aja 720p 59.94 8bit. It looks great on the monitor in HD or downconverted to SD. I conclude if I need a DVCPro HD master, I can playback via SDI to a DVCPro HD deck.

    The ONLY problem I’ve run into is that “Print to Tape” wants to conform the entire edit to HDV output, even though I have Aja Kona selected as the video output in the prefs. IOW, it wants to render the whole timeline to HDV, like I’m printing back to the HDV deck.

    Dave Beaty

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    Suite 202
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  • Jerry Alto

    May 1, 2006 at 3:55 pm

    Dave- You are still able to do a hard record to the deck..right? You’d just have to build your slate, bars etc. in the timeline and loose the ability
    to set the timecode.
    Jerry

    G5 Dual 3GB Ram
    FCP5 Studio
    External 1 TB SATA Raid 0
    Kona LH, Second system w AJA ioLA
    Sony Z-1

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