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  • HDV to Beta SP workflow

    Posted by Brandon Carter on July 17, 2010 at 3:34 am

    I am editing HDV footage. My final product is then sent to compressor and down converted to ProRes SD, then laid on an sd time line and exported to Beta SP. I feel like I’m loosing some quality somewhere. I’m wondering what some of you guys would recommend as a work flow. Thanks.

    Michael Gissing replied 15 years, 10 months ago 6 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Michael Gissing

    July 17, 2010 at 3:41 am

    If you have Kona card you can down convert as you playout from the HDV timeline to Sp Beta. Faster and better down convert than Compressor.

    I used to have Decklink HDPro which didn’t do as good a downconvert as the Kona, but I don’t know if Decklink downconvert has improved with more recent cards & software.

  • Brandon Carter

    July 17, 2010 at 3:54 am

    I have a blackmagic card and while it downconverts quickly, the quality is TERRIBLE. I’m wishing I would have opted for the Kona card now.

  • Michael Gissing

    July 17, 2010 at 4:07 am

    Yes my old Decklink was worse than Compressor. In order of quality my list would be

    Best – Teranex or specialist hardware equivalent
    Next – Kona3 or Sony HDCam deck (yep on some programs I prefer this to the Kona)
    Cheap – Compressor
    Desperate – FCP or Quicktime Comversion or Decklink

  • Shane Ross

    July 17, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    Why you dissin’ Decklink? It does a FINE job of downconverting. Did you set up all the settings properly in the Decklink interface? I can’t tell you what they are, I haven’t used one in a while, but it was the first card I had and I used it MAINLY to downconvert HD to SD for output.

    Shane

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  • Steve Eisen

    July 17, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    Ditto. It’s got to be user error. I still have my Decklink in my G5. MXO2 on my Mac Pro and Kona 3 offsite. All perform great downconversions.

    Quality all depends on what your source footage is.

    Steve Eisen
    Eisen Video Productions
    Vice President
    Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

  • Michael Gissing

    July 17, 2010 at 11:51 pm

    I was being specific about my Decklink HD Pro card. It is still in my old G5. There is nothing to the setup page but to choose which SDI connector to downconvert with (it is a dual 444 card or 2 x 422 SDI) and a choice as to anamorphic or letterbox. I did say that newer cards and software may have improved the Decklink downconverts.

    The downconverts were soft, on a par with FCP scaling so I used my HDCam deck which is just as good as the Kona3.

  • Brandon Carter

    July 18, 2010 at 2:50 am

    When I downconvert and output through the Decklink card the video comes out very jittery and blocky looking. If it could be user error, I wish someone could point out some settings to check. Compressor is converting much better, but its very soft and not so sharp. I’m looking for the ABSOLUTE best quality here.

  • Pradip Patil

    July 18, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    Hi Brendon,

    I have faced similar situation earlier with Blackmagic. The problem was with external video playback settings in FCP. I had set it to SD resolution and that was causing the problem.
    I changed it to HD resolution and the quality of the downconverted video improved a lot.

  • John Fishback

    July 18, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    I’m not familiar with those cards, but have you fed proper reference video to all devices?

    John

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  • Michael Gissing

    July 20, 2010 at 2:50 am

    Yes I have always had ref video fed to all machines and I/O cards. Decklink are great cards but one of the motivations for changing to Kona was their superior downconverts.

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