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  • HDV or ProRes to get best MPEG2 for SD DVD??

    Posted by Ben Ged low on April 1, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    I want to master a 90 minute HDV 1080i show.

    I’ve been getting odd little glitches going straight from the HDV timeline (with original clips, dissolves, effects, etc.) exporting straight out through Compressor to MPEG2. Each render I get minor glitches in different places (artifacting breakup etc.).

    This time I want to create a master Quicktime, and export THAT from the FCP timeline through Compressor to MPEG2… with the idea that it may solve my problem with the minor glitches.

    Would I be better off with an HDV Quicktime, or a ProRes Quicktime? And if ProRes, which ProRes to get the best end results on the MPEG2?

    All ears,

    Ben Ged low replied 18 years, 1 month ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Rory Brennan

    April 1, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    For stability reasons I always export a QT from FCP to take to compressor as I never really have much luck going straight from FCP into compressor.
    That said, I would export “same as source” (HDV) then bring that into compressor. If you export ProRes, you are running your video through an additional compression, which I believe won’t help improve quality.
    Finally, make sure your compression settings are correct. Do you want letterbox, anamorphic, middle-cut or crop’d sides. The more you start changing the video around the more problems you will have as compressor isn’t a several thousand dollar hardware unit.

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  • Ben Scott

    April 1, 2008 at 6:18 pm

    i agree if just straight editing then keep in native hdv, although when do you not apply effects.

    sorry to complicate things but think it important to note

    if doing effects it is recommended to render HDV to prores (i put in a recent podcast)

    therefore it may be that most of your timeline may be in prores and not HDV so you would probably be best in that instance to be sending out prores qt and then encoding from that

    also prores should transcode quicker than hdv

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  • Ben Ged low

    April 1, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    Hi guys,

    I’m outputting a ProRes QT, which I will then import into Compressor to make my MPEG2. I’ve wanted to use ProRes for awhile. This will be a good test.

    I always worry that straight HDV, when it is mastered as a QT, and THEN goes to MPEG2 … that I’ll get more artifacting in the dissolves and effects.

    I’m thinking the ProRes is so much less compressed, that there will be less chance of funkiness in the MPEG2. Touch wood.

    ProRes seems to export faster too.

    Thanks for the help,

    Ben

  • Mark Maness

    April 1, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    You do realize that in FCP 6.02, y0ou cen set your renders to ProRess 422 if you are using HDV or XDCAM HD.

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  • Ben Ged low

    April 1, 2008 at 9:17 pm

    Thank you Wayne,

    Yeah, I just figured that out. So that would mean that my project (timeline) is still in HDV, but my renders (dissolves, color corrections, etc.) are all in ProRes?

    Would that make any difference if my final export master was still HDV?

    And I’m under the impression that no matter what the rendering of the FCP timeline, when you export out all the clips are re-rendered in whatever codec you choose for the export… have I got that right?

    B.

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