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  • HDV on Adobe

    Posted by Pella Media on December 14, 2005 at 12:30 pm

    I am using a Sony HDV Z1 and capture fire wire to a 3Ghz processor PC and have external HD via USB 2 connections. When I pan Left to Right fast the image brakes up on Adobe when I reply on the monitor or fast running action shots as the image goes out the frame on the left or right. If I capture in DVCAM no problem at all with Adobe. Is the PC speed not fast enough, or the USB 2 connection the problem, or the drive to slow. I did load the HD upgrade on Adobe. Any suggestions

    Peter Pakula replied 20 years, 4 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Tim Kolb

    December 14, 2005 at 1:34 pm

    First, USB2 will handle DV…most of the time, but your files are bigger with PPro 1.5.1. While HDV is technically the same data footprint as DV, once the HDV is captured with PPro, it’s converted to CineForm HD codec, which is a better codec to maintain image quality than MPEG-based HDV, but the files are larger.

    While USB2 technically “peaks” a bit higher than FireWire, for sustained data rate, USB2 frequently proves to be more erratic in sustained data rate than FireWire.

    You may want to try a FireWire drive for this application.

    TimK,

    Kolb Syverson Communications,
    Creative Cow Host,
    2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
    Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
    Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
    “Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net

  • Pella Media

    December 14, 2005 at 9:00 pm

    Thanks Tim

    I appreciate, just a few more questions, sorry Tim

    1. So you say that Adobe HDV upgrade if fine with HDV and it is definitely not an Adobe problem? Final Cut pro took some time to sort out all the HDV problems and so did Avid and I was thinking maybe adobe released the HDV upgrade just to get going with the intention to upgrade later with a more proper upgrade.

    2. Can Encore, after effects, Audio and all other Adobe Video related programs handle the HDV , I want to buy the program but not so sure if it can handle the HDV format or if perhaps a later upgrade is coming out?

    3. Does Adobe have a Imaging stabilization filter that I can use when there is too much movement with the clip that was shot Free Hand, like in Avid
    Thanks Tim
    Johann Niemoller

  • Tim Kolb

    December 15, 2005 at 1:58 am

    You should have a plugin called “Steady Move” on your PPro install disk. It’s a freebie image stabilization tool that functions pretty well in my experience…otherwise After Effects is obviously very good in this department.

    As far as HDV goes…many would say that, from an image quality point of view, PPro handles HDV better than Apple and Avid as they both handle HDV natively, but editing HDV native can be problematic as the quality will certainly drop. Both Apple and Avid have intermediate codecs to convert HDV to…but DVC Pro on the Mac and DNxHD on Avid are both still a step behind the CineForm HD codec for image quality.

    I use CineForm’s full version of Aspect HD for editing HDV originated material. The CineForm codec (included in PPro 1.5.1) is very high quality and the Aspect software speeds the process quite a bit with very nimble playback capability…even when you’re editing HD on an external FW drive.

    TimK,

    Kolb Syverson Communications,
    Creative Cow Host,
    2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
    Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
    Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
    “Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net

  • Peter Pakula

    December 16, 2005 at 7:27 am

    Not sure if this is right but Prem 50i (Pal) is upper field first. I solved the problem I had which was similar by reversing field priority.

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