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HDV into ProRes 422?
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[Shane Ross] ”
Gonna need an Intel, huh? Well, then, I will need to get ANOTHER Kona card then, as my current one is a PCI-X card. This will be an expensive upgrade.”Someone asked about this the other day with the Io HD, whether or not and Intel was needed, and the answer I got from AJA was essentially “yet to be determined” as they honestly have not tested that yet. So the jury is still out on whether or not Intel will absolutely be required for ProRes 422. Right now it’s probable, but not absolutely yes.
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[walter biscardi] “So the jury is still out on whether or not Intel will absolutely be required for ProRes 422. Right now it’s probable, but not absolutely yes.”
I hope it doesn’t….which is why I’ll wait until FCP Studio 2 comes out. Even if it does, it is a MIGHTY expensive prospect, so I might have to save my pennies for a while.
Shane
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ok, so to recap: just capture native HDV (though Firewire) then drop it on the timeline to edit in ProRes 422, and it should reduce renderer times?
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[stevemitchell] “ok, so to recap: just capture native HDV (though Firewire) then drop it on the timeline to edit in ProRes 422, and it should reduce renderer times?”
Depending on the speed of your machine, it might take longer. There will be a realtime transcode from HDV to ProRes 422 when you drop it into the timeline, so that’s processor time. To get all the power of FCS 2, it’s going to take the fastest machines with very fast drives.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”Read my blog! https://blogs.creativecow.net/WalterBiscardi
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No I don’t think so…
You need a capture card to capture to pro res I think. Native Pro res should render faster than HDV will (Cause just about anything does…) and if you put native HDV a pro res timeline, it will work but I don’t think it could speed up rendering over HDV per se… it still has to conform the HDV then transcode it to pro res. You’d have to render this in the end anyway…
Pro Res will be a wonderful thing for HDV shooters. But you’ll be needing a way to capture without FW involved for the best workflow… you need an HD capture card and and most likely a very fast mac to do this, or an HD Io which would SEND to your Mac via FW 800 Pro Res HQ HD Or what have you…
Jerry
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HDV is pretty slow to compress back to, but ProRes should be faster to compress back to. Processing times for adding effects would be faster on the decode on ProRes, but slower because you’re rendering more pixels as it’s full raster…. So, hard to tell precisely without a proper speed test, which we can’t do until it ships.
Graeme
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how fast a MAC? Would an Intel dual core 2.66ghz do it?
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You’ll probably find this interesting, Shane.
I asked people at Matrox about ProRess 422 compatability with the MXO, and from what I gathered, it’s already compatable. What they said is that you just pick the “HD 1080i uncompressed YUV” output setting (if you’re working in 1080i, of course), so it’s apparently not a ProRes 422 codec compatability issue….which I find a bit strange since you have to pick the various HDV or DVCProHD outputs for those timelines. But I guess it has to do with the ProRes not being a resized actual frame, like the 1440 horiz. res of HDV, for example. So since the ProRes 422 in 1080i is a ‘true’ 1920×1080 sized frame with 10-bit 4:2:2, using the ‘uncompressed’ output will work just fine….according to them. I certainly hope it’s this simple.
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[rcPics] “I asked people at Matrox about ProRess 422 compatability with the MXO, and from what I gathered, it’s already compatable. What they said is that you just pick the “HD 1080i uncompressed YUV” output setting (if you’re working in 1080i, of course), so it’s apparently not a ProRes 422 codec compatability issue…”
Matrox always claimed to be resolution agnostic. And I think it is because they take the feed of the DVI port that they are able to accomplish this.
Shane
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What are the odds that the Blackmagic Intensity will support ProRes w/a future update? Or do you think Apple will block ProRes from Blackmagic because of the AJA box?
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