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HDV into ProRes 422?
Posted by Steve Mitchell on May 8, 2007 at 3:56 amin the new Final Cut, will it be possible to ingest HDV via Firewire using ProRes 422? And will this help with the long-Gop issue?
thanks ya’ll…
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Jeremy Garchow replied 19 years ago 15 Members · 50 Replies -
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Jeremy Garchow
May 8, 2007 at 4:43 am[stevemitchell] “via Firewire”
I don’t think so. You will need a capture device such as the AJA ioHD, Kona3/LHe, or blackmagic products.
Jeremy
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Shane Ross
May 8, 2007 at 4:45 amNo. You’ll need a capture card to do this. Just like you need one to capture HDV as DVCPRO HD. To capture any format as any other format (except for offline RT) you need a capture card. We know that the I/O HD does this, as it has a built in ProRes hardware encoder. And I heard mention that the Kona 3 could do it. I am HOPING that the LH can do this as well.
Shane

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Michael Sacci
May 8, 2007 at 6:09 amFrom what I was able to gather at NAB the card does not do the encoding to ProRes (the Io HD is the exception) so as long as the computer is fast enough the CPU will do a RT encode upon capture so any SDI card should work in theory.
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Jim Watt
May 8, 2007 at 10:42 amMy understanding from the demo’s and subsequent “one on one” questions is that you can place any format in the browser onto the timeline and it will automatically, presuming your processor is fast enough, convert it to high res.
Nothing was ever mentioned about converting through any cards, so it sounded like you can digitize through firewire, import the files into your browser, place them on the timeline and you have a High res timeline.
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Walter Biscardi
May 8, 2007 at 10:46 am[Shane Ross] ”
No. You’ll need a capture card to do this.”Yep. Though if you computer is fast enough, FCP 6 does allow mixed codecs in a single timeline so in theory you could digitize HDV via Firewire and then edit in a ProRes 422 timeline. Would probably be better to convert the footage during ingest as it won’t tax your computer as much to do native footage instead of mixed codecs.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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Tom Maloney
May 8, 2007 at 10:59 amShane , in reading ths post here you have lost me. Looking ata HDV camera. Do I understand correctly you need a card to input this format into your Mac ? so that kills the Mac Book Pro for editing hdv ? Really lost here,I am a simple sd useer now and considering looking at Sonys new camera ( can’t remember name ) one with the small hd
thanks for all
Tom
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Walter Biscardi
May 8, 2007 at 11:02 am[tom] “Do I understand correctly you need a card to input this format into your Mac ? so that kills the Mac Book Pro for editing hdv”
No, not for HDV. You can capture HDV natively to just about any Mac using Firewire. What Shane is talking about is transcoding HDV to Apple ProRes 422. For that you need a capture card like the AJA Kona series.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”Read my blog! https://blogs.creativecow.net/WalterBiscardi
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Graeme Nattress
May 8, 2007 at 12:30 pmYou don’t have to, is the simple answer. With the new timeline, you can edit HDV native on a ProRes or Uncompressed or whateveryouwant timeline. Render and it renders to that format. HDV is only really an issue on render and out to tape, which this above method would avoid with minimum quality hit as you’re not inserting an extra transcode in the path.
Graeme
– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP
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Antonio Atzei
May 8, 2007 at 12:39 pmI have ordered a FCS 2
I`m not sure what or if I have a AJA Kona series installed. I did though purchase a G5 QUAD with 4.5 GB of RAM and 1TB memory. All of this and I still need a AJA KONA card to be able to work in PRO RES right?BABALOTTI PRODUCTIONS
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Gary Adcock
May 8, 2007 at 12:48 pm[Jim Watt] “Nothing was ever mentioned about converting through any cards, so it sounded like you can digitize through firewire, import the files into your browser, place them on the timeline and you have a High res timeline.”
WHAT?
the first Paragraph of the white paper on ProRes says
” Using Apple ProRes 422 on a Mac Pro equipped with an HD-SDI video card, users can capture the highest-quality, full-width, 10-bit, 4:2:2 HD video from any HD-SDI source, including HD tape decks, broadcast feeds, direct recording from a camera
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