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  • HDV explained?

    Posted by Lagoasantense on October 10, 2005 at 2:47 pm

    im a pc user whith an vx2000, i use after and premier for editing but im on the mood to buy HD CAMS. im thinking on sony hdv FX 1. id like to know if theres a way for me to keep using this softwares whit HD footage.. im i going to keep capturing like DV, or i need to have a pluggin or aditional soft for capturing and rendering?

    Rodrigo Lagoa

    Accountneedsrealnameupdate replied 20 years, 7 months ago 6 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Abie Silva

    October 10, 2005 at 3:00 pm

    I don’t really understand what the question is exactly. If your asking if you can edit HD footage in after effects & Premiere I believe the answer is no. You would first have to downconvert the footage with something like a miranda downconverter but that can be costly if it’s just you.

  • Dflamholc

    October 10, 2005 at 3:52 pm

    i’m running a sony HDV-Z1E with an older version of FCP… the camera actually can down-convert to DV on the go as you digitize. you can also choose to shoot on DV rather than HDV when you’re actually recording, but you always have the option to down convert as you output it from teh cam. however you’ll have to choose whether you want to cut sides on the footage or put it in letter-box in the computer as you’re messing up the aspect ratio and the pixels between DV and HDV. it’s a bit confusing to get ones head around, i’m not there yet myself when it comes to all the details, but it does work… problem is though that if you’re looking to then use the material off your computer as outpout from on-line editing, then you don’t need an HDV cam as you don’t gain the resolution from it as you down-convert it.

    anyway, there it is.. the camera can do the down-conversion for you, but you won’t benefit from the camera’s higher resolution that way. the new FCP 5 Pro is meant to digitize straight into HDV, but I haven’t had the benefit of running

  • Chris Smith

    October 10, 2005 at 4:14 pm

    AE can do projects at any resolution so you don’t need to downconvert. However you will need to use a codec that it will understand. FCP is made to work with HDV natively. Then when you want to use another app with the footage (like AE) it will export to the ‘Apple Intermediate codec’. in this state, other apps will be able to use it at full res.

    Don’t know that Premeire supports HDV though.

    Chris Smith
    https://www.sugarfilmproduction.com

  • Martin Munthe

    October 10, 2005 at 4:41 pm

    For PPro and HDV exports to and from AE you need one of the Cineform plugins (www.cineform.com). You’ll do fine with the cheapest one. Cineform brings you and intermediate codec – much like Apples Intermediate codec. This way you’ll be working in a lossless 4:2:2 space even iof the original mpeg stream is very lossy. The idea is to not recompress mpeg which would be a disaster. Keep in mind that HDV puts rather heavy demands on your CPU. This is because intermediates transcodes in realtime during capture.

    HDV is in its infancy. It’s not going to be a ride without bumps. It’s like the DV revolution all over again. The first couple of years every bit of software out there had problems with TC, machine controls, sync drifts and general color space issues. All of that is present in HDV editing software right now. It’ll be up to specs in a couple of years. Until then: be a pioneer.

    Martin Munthe
    DP | Director
    https://www.operafilm.com/edit.html

  • Lagoasantense

    October 10, 2005 at 5:01 pm

    nice. thats what i needed to know. so where can i find this software?

  • Lagoasantense

    October 10, 2005 at 5:19 pm

    so its about to have a HDV edit software? sorry for my ignorace, but the real thing is that im working on a video about my fathers life, and i wish to record it on HDV and than put it on PELICULA 16mm (like in cinema). my question is: would hdv be a good option because of the resolution?

    Rodrigo Lagoa

  • Chris Smith

    October 10, 2005 at 5:36 pm

    Well, short of shooting it on 16mm itself, HDV definitely looks better than straight up DV. But for a project that important, I’d get FCP as it’s built to import and edit HDV in realtime.

    Chris Smith
    https://www.sugarfilmproduction.com

  • Accountneedsrealnameupdate

    October 10, 2005 at 9:48 pm

    I don’t know how it compares to the Final Cut Pro HDV integration as have no HDV footage to play with but according to the Adobe website the Premiere Pro 1.5.1 update adds HDV support. Presumably you would have to export to an intermediate file for After Effects to use.
    The 1.5.1 update is free to all 1.5 users.
    It’s all on the Adobe website, the first place I looked.
    Anyone out there actually used it?
    Glenn Stewart
    1K studios

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