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HDV DVCPROHD workflow
I understand the best way to deal with HDV is through Kona 3 via HD10AVA into the JVCPROHD codec. The you are cutting fotage that is fullframe instead of mpg. I grasp the ingest part clearly…..now going back out. From the way I understand it to master back to HDV requires reconforming to mpg gop’s. Which is a long process. Wit the addition of a JVCPROHD deck you could go straight out in realtime. Where is the happy medium. i am jus ttrying to learn as much about HDV/ JVCPROHD workflow as possible as I contimplate my SD future.
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JVCPRO HD isn’t DVCPRO HD. DVCPRO HD is a Panasonic format.
And if you are going to master back out to HDV, I don’t think there will be any reason to capture as DVCPRO HD.
Stay HDV if you are going to go back out to HDV.
Shane
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Shane,
Major longday syndrom on my part. I meant DVCPRO HD. After the day I had I am surprised I got that much right. Anyways, I have read just about every post on HDV workflow and native HDV is pretty much junk. You have to have all this trick apps to get it into an actual codec you can cut with and then spend hours reconforming it for output. Everything I read said the easiest way is to go through a Kona card via component analog and have it come in DVCPRO HD. That is the best method that will give you somehting you can cut with instantly.Can you please describe your HDV workflow on FCP. I would like to keep it in the FCP realm.
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[Bill] “Everything I read said the easiest way is to go through a Kona card via component analog and have it come in DVCPRO HD. That is the best method that will give you somehting you can cut with instantly.”
Yep, that’s how we cut it. We’re cutting our third HD episode using this method. Component out of our Sony M15U deck, converted to HD-SDI via the AJA HD10AVA converter, then captured in DVCPro HD through the Kona 3. If you get the Kona LHe, you can skip the converter and go component straight into that board. We use the 720-1080 cross conversion all the time so that’s why we run the Kona 3.
Jerry Hofmann had an entire HDV workflow two Cow Magazines ago and I believe it’s now posted on the site.
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I will openly admit sometimes I can make a mountain out of a molehill. As in this situation. Reality is, a longer render time is acceptable in short promos. Why complicate things more than you have to. So, board mods please feel free to strike this entire thread on behalf of a late friday freak out.
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If I was editing HDV and outputting to any HD format other than HDV, then I’d capture as DVCPRO HD using my Kona LH card. In fact, I will be doing just that next weekend, shooting with the Canon H1.
However, you said you were outputting back to HDV…mastering to HDV. In that case, I’d stick with the HDV format. You’ll have to conform to get it to tape, but the quality would be much better than if you shot HDV, converted to another format, then converted BACK to HDV for output. Too many conversions.
Shane
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We have been working with footage originated in HDV, DV and even some old Hi-8 and VHS. Basic cuts and dissolves have been no problem in HDV. It’s not junk. Stuff looks fine; it’s just a bit weird and slow to work with compared to DVCPROHD, but not terrible. (Though with our big project we still may do a DVCPROHD online through the Kona 3, to prepare for color correction, etc.)
To put it back out to HDV for portable review at higher definition than a DVD, we first export an HDV Quicktime clip of chunks of the timeline (recompressing all frames) then put those clips in another HDV sequence. If you don’t do anything to those clips, FCP conforms the HDV in moments and it can be printed to tape. Of course the clip export takes a lot of time, but then you have a clip that can be moved around and then conformed to HDV output again without spending hours conforming, whereas when you conform a timeline and then fiddle with the timeline, you have to go to an overnight or longer conform process again.
Not sure if this has any value, but it works, usually, apart from the crashing problems we have, which is another matter.
Good luck,
Mike
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