HDV-Broadcast to HD Advice and export Advice for HDV

[Shane Ross]

[paul roubicek] “1.HDV log and Capture, should l capture the HDV in Pro Res 422 normal or HQ ( l read some say Normal others say HQ) l also read that HQ is needed for HD output (broadcast!) in the (Color Reg 709) Confused whats Reg709 Render?? l understand that ProRes normal is 8 bit and HQ is 10 bit (larger files) and that if l log and capture at HQ it does not improve my footage. please explain if possible”

There is so much wrong in that paragraph that I couldn’t let it go.

– ALL flavors of ProRes are 10 bit. EVERY ONE. ProRes Proxy, LT, 422, HQ, 4444. All are 10 bit.
– ProRes HQ is meant to be used with 10-bit ACQUISITION formats. Red, AVCIntra. For 8-bit acquisition formats, like HDV, AVCHD, H.264…regular ProRes 422 is fine. EVEN FOR BROADCAST. I use it all the time for major cable networks.
– ALL HD is REC709…that’s just the name of the color space.
– Going to ProRes…no matter what flavor…will NOT improve the quality of your footage. It will make it easier to edit, and handle color correction better. But there is zero quality gain.

[paul roubicek] “l want to edit it and output in FULL Quality to the WEB”

No, you do not. Do NOT export “Full quality” to the web. It will be too large for people to download, and will not play smooth. Encode to H.264…like all the Apple Trailers do. 720p is large enough.

[paul roubicek] “2.When l render the time-line what render settings should l use?”

ProRes. If your clips are captured as ProRes…then they will render ProREs. If you use HDV settings, render to ProRes.

[paul roubicek] “3.when the edit is complete and l wish to make a master copy to re-use what should l export the edited time-line as to file on my storage?????”

File>Export>QUicktime Movie. Self Contained….using the sequence settings. That will be a lossless file.

[paul roubicek] “4.if l need to give the edit to a Broadcast TV Network for Airing and they want it in HD what is the best quality and Codex (example DVCPRO HD or something else whats the best) to Use. “

You give them what they ask for. Every network is different. Some want DVCPRO HD 720p 59.94, others want HDCAM 1080p 23.98…others HDCAM SR 29.97…some Digibeta…some a broadcast MPEG-2 file. There is no standard.

[paul roubicek] ” ( l understand they will ask and tell me what they want but if they don’t???”

Then you ask them. We are in no position to tell you what to give someone else.

As for the rest…dude, you need serious schooling. You aren’t ready to edit for broadcast TV with questions like this. You need to work on a show as an assistant, or some other support staff on a show with an EXPERIENCED editor who knows what to do, and can explain things as they go. Editing for broadcast TV is a pretty complex art, and highly technical (much more so than making videos for DVD or the web). This is something that you either need to go to school to learn, or learn on the job.

If the company you are working for needs to have an editor output a show for broadcast, they needed to have hired someone who knew how to do it. Not someone who is trying to figure it out on a forum. pardon the harsh words…I don’t mean to knock your editing ability. You might be perfectly fine as a creative cutter. But creative cutting and prepping shows for broadcast are very different.

Shane

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[Paul Roubicek]

Hi Shane

thanks for the information and l guess your words at the end, something to take in to note are l have not been editing on Mac or computers for long most of my work is field based and still using tape and tape to tape edit SX, Panasonic Laptop editors though my work on FCP is quite good for the time l used it, but when it comes to the codex l don’t know a lot still quite new to me.

As to my ability to edit all my work l cut myself

But with this in mind have a look at my work credits and judge for your self as to my ability and years in the industry then make judgment. only seem to the fair way Mate.
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thanks again for the information appreciate your time and advice

Paul

[Shane Ross]

As I said, you might be a pretty good and creative editor. And I see that you have been in the industry for quite some time. But when it comes to onlining a project for broadcast, that is a separate set of skills. That is why there is a full profession for it…just like there is a full profession for offline editor, camera operator, post supervisor. It requires quite a bit of specific knowledge, and a bit more than can be dolled out on a web forum.

I consider myself a fair shooter, but I really am only good at getting some scenic shots and maybe some b-roll. I don’t know how to adjust the knee or tweak the camera in all the cool ways that they can be tweaked by someone who is a professional cameraman. So when it comes to the main shooting, I leave it to them.

Shane

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[Mike Askew]

Talk to your stations, and stay in touch with them. Their technology is constantly changing (as are their personnel).