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HDV and HDTV monitoring
Has anyone come up with a viable solution to…
1) I want to edit HDV using the CineForm codec in Premiere Pro.
2) I want to be able to monitor the HD output in real time and preferably in sync with the 5.1 audio.My unproven ideas include…
a) DeckLink HD Pro 4:4:4 Capture Board feeding a HD CRT monitor or HDLink/Cinemadisplay (but then I must use the BlackMagic codec to see the output, no?… which doesn’t meet requirement one)
b) Add a Nvidia Quadro FX 540 card with 9pin HDTV output. (Does this work with Premiere and CineForm HDV? Is this full 1920 resolution? What monitors are compatible with this… the Apple 23″ Cinemadisplay? Can it handle Interlaced playback on a consumer HDTV display?)
c) Add a Nvidia Quadro FX 4000 SDI. (Will this output realtime HD from premiere pro using CineForm HDV?)
Has anyone tried/tested any of these solutions? Why is so hard?
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Actually the SDI solutions will be expensive as SDI CRT options are pricey at the moment.
The FX 540 card has an analog breakout box with composite/S video/component outputs…you don’t need the 9 pin. An analog HD monitor with analog component in will be cheaper…maybe even sub 2,000 USD.
It isn’t full 1920 because HDV isn’t full 1920, it’s 1440. One of the reasons why SDI outputs add a level of complication is that SDI only handles square pixels (640×480, 1280×720, 1920×1080…), HDV doesn’t use square pixels in the Sony 1440×1080 version of HDV. Thus a conversion is necesssary and that takes power from someplace.
TimK
Kolb Syverson Communications
Creative Cow Host
2004, 2005 NAB Post Production Conference Premiere Pro Technical Chair
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net -
Thanks for the info on the FX 540. The Nvidia web page is far from complete with information and I only saw the Composite and y/c outputs. Now that I know there are component outputs, it makes sense how they claimed to have HDTV output.
The question still remains… how do you get Interlaced HD monitor output to a CRT from Premiere Pro while working with the CineForm HDV codec?
As far as CRT monitors, I find this combo to be my preference. I’m willing to pay for it if I can use it.
Sony PVM-14L5/1 14″ Color Multiformat Monitor with 800 Lines, 4:3/16:9, NTSC/PAL and Component Inputs $1630
Sony HD-SDI Decoder Board for PVM-14L5/1 (BKM-142HD) $3200 -
Well, we may be confusing some of the specs here…
Inerlaced HD is what is coming out of the component outputs on the 540, provided of course you have interlaced footage and are using interlaced presets.
The “800 line” monitor is measured horizontally…analog monitors have no spec for vertical as it’s standard for video monitors…HD is HD, SD is SD. Analog monitors really have scan lines instead of pixels so often odd horizontal resolutions end up loking better in analog as there is no odd “1 pixel=1.3 pixel” adaptation as there would be with digital displays.
The one thing to note is that SDI is square pixel only so you’ll need a converter device to get to 1920 from 1440…then display it on an 800 line monitor. I’d urge you to try the analog route and see if you can save the 3000 bucks.
SDI output is good to master to other HD formats of course, but if you don’t need that, analog monitoring would deal with the 1440 horizontal resolution without the conversion…which does add some cost if the only thing you want SDI for is monitoring.
TimK
Kolb Syverson Communications
Creative Cow Host
2004, 2005 NAB Post Production Conference Premiere Pro Technical Chair
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net
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