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hdv and FCP
Posted by Andres Garcia on October 18, 2006 at 10:35 pmI am very confused…. Last week I decided to buy my first HDV camcorder, in order to get into the HD World. But according to the article in the last issue of Creative Cow magazine, work with HDV in Final Cut is a nightmare… 38 minutes to conform 5 minutes is simply impossible for todays world. Have anyone another experience?
Arnie Schlissel replied 19 years, 6 months ago 5 Members · 14 Replies -
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Walter Biscardi
October 18, 2006 at 10:46 pmI currently cutting some HDV 1080i / 50 on a Mac Pro Quad 3.0 and it’s surprisingly snappy with FCP 5.1.2. Scrubs fast, realtime dissolves and realtime (degraded) playback of 3 Way Color Corrector. Looks surprisingly clean playing out on my Kona 3 board.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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Steve Eisen
October 19, 2006 at 4:20 amYou said the magic word Walter, Kona 3. Without an HD capture card, HDV could take some time to conform depending how long your clips are and what your system configuation is.
HDV is a less expensive aquisition option but you will still need other hardware options to make it perform.
I see a lot of people shooting HDV and when they get back to the edit suite, they are having a hell of a time trying to edit. You can edit with HDV, you just need to go through the correct steps to make it work efficiently.
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Walter Biscardi
October 19, 2006 at 11:59 am[Steve Eisen] “You said the magic word Walter, Kona 3. Without an HD capture card, HDV could take some time to conform depending how long your clips are and what your system configuation is.”
Yeah, you probably right. the Konas do offer accelerted performance by lifting the scaling work off the processors so I get more realtime and better overall performance. We’d never master to HDV so a Kona is a must for us.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Alfred Guzzetti
October 19, 2006 at 2:36 pmI assume that you mean that you capture HDV clips as component video via the Kona board and are then editing non-mpeg2 files in FCP. If so, then is it possible to get FCP to output the result onto HDV?
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Walter Biscardi
October 19, 2006 at 2:48 pm[Alfred Guzzetti] “I assume that you mean that you capture HDV clips as component video via the Kona board and are then editing non-mpeg2 files in FCP. If so, then is it possible to get FCP to output the result onto HDV?”
No, this is not possible. You cannot convert footage to HDV via the Kona 3. Clips are captured native HDV via Firewire, so yes you can output the result back to HDV. I would never do that, but you can.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Alfred Guzzetti
October 19, 2006 at 3:57 pmSorry, I don’t quite follow. You capture HDV as analogue component via the Kona card. Then are you editing mpeg2 HDV files in FCP? If not, what codec are you using and howdo you output to tape. Excuse my ignorance. I haven’t tried any of this yet but need to soon.
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Walter Biscardi
October 19, 2006 at 4:48 pm[Alfred Guzzetti] “Sorry, I don’t quite follow. You capture HDV as analogue component via the Kona card.”
No, as I stated, I am capturing HDV via Firewire.
[Alfred Guzzetti] “Then are you editing mpeg2 HDV files in FCP?”
Yes
[Alfred Guzzetti] “If not, what codec are you using and howdo you output to tape.”
Via the Kona 3. This plays out HDV in realtime.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Arnie Schlissel
October 19, 2006 at 9:59 pmIf you can, take it back & swap it for a Panasonic HVX-200. DVCPro HD is a better codec to work with, & the picture quality of the HVX is very good. It’s a little softer than most cameras in this price range, but the benefits of DVC Pro & P2 are well worth it. And the softer image is more forgiving, as well. Your actresses will loooove this camera!
Arnie
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Andres Garcia
October 20, 2006 at 1:58 amIf the magic word is Kona you are speaking of 3000 dollars…. a bit expensive… to achieve a good perfomance. Dont you think so?
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