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HDV 1080i60 to 50
Posted by Ignatius Gorin on June 12, 2009 at 3:09 pmHi, I just received footages from Brazil, and out of 5 interviews, 4 are shot in HDV 1080i60 (NTSC), one is in PAL. On my whole (1080i50) timeline, about 20% of 26′ is in 1080i60.
I need to have the 4 shot in 1080i60 converted to 1080i50, what would be the best way? Compressor? I can’t just place 1080i60 clips on the timeline and render, right? (if I do this right now, video is late and kind of jerky).NB: I didn’t know these were shot in 60 when I captured, and captured with my usual 1080i50 settings, does that hurt? If yes what would be my best go, given that I don’t have the time to recapture needed portions.
I’m on a Mac Pro 2×2.6/3Gig. FCP 5.1.4.
MANY thanks.
Rafael Amador replied 16 years, 11 months ago 2 Members · 7 Replies -
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Rafael Amador
June 12, 2009 at 3:23 pmHi Ignatius,
I would convert that to 1080p25 with Compressor. set the Control Frame ON, Resize Linear (there is no resize), Output Field NONE, Deinterlace: BEST and Rate Conversion: BEST.
Will take time.
DON”T export to HDV unless you intend to print back to HDV tape.
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Ignatius Gorin
June 12, 2009 at 4:49 pmThanks for your input Rafael.
Just to be sure: will 1080p25 fit into my 1080i50 timeline?
This is delivered as a file, so what I usually do is export using “Current settings”, then I use Flip4Mac to convert it to WMV 1280×720 (best ratio quality/compatibility I found for this particular client, knowing that this is intended to be viewed in a presentation context, with a videoprojector out from a laptop). What would be my best go here?
Also one more question: for ITV (talking heads) parts, I obviously need audio and video to match, but for illustration shots, I don’t care about sync. For these, can I just put them on the timeline and render?
Thank you again.
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Rafael Amador
June 12, 2009 at 5:32 pm[Ignatius Gorin] “Just to be sure: will 1080p25 fit into my 1080i50 timeline? “
Don’t edit in i50. Mostly when you gonna end up in a WMV that will be played from a PC.
All Progressive. Deinterlace the rest of the i50 footage too. The DV too.
HDV 1080 is the same size and pixels in PAL-land than in NTSC-land and in “p” than in “i”.
You don’t need to care about. But export from Compressor and edit in a sequence Proress 1920×1080 Square pixels.[Ignatius Gorin] ” but for illustration shots, I don’t care about sync. For these, can I just put them on the timeline and render?”
What do you mean? to drop the i60 in a i50 or p25 sequence and render? NO, NO.
FC can manage together different sizes, codecs, pixels, color spaces,..but something can not manage is different Time-bases together. You won’t ever get nothing good from there.
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Ignatius Gorin
June 13, 2009 at 6:54 am>> Don’t edit in i50. Mostly when you gonna end up in a WMV that will be played from a PC. << Well, I captured in i50, I thought the easiest was to edit in i50, then export and convert. Anyway, my current timeline (and most clips) is in i50, and I've been editing for a couple of days already (until I found out about these i60 clips), so I'm not starting from scratch. I guess I shouldn't try to convert everything to p25, should I? What I thought was to select clips and shots right within the i50 timeline, then when I'm done, I'll convert only selected clips, that made it to the timeline, vs. converting 12 hrs of interviews if I only need about 5' of material. Then (where I'm at) isn't it easier to convert i60 clips to i50, and then render and export? Can I apply the same settings you mentioned but i50? Thank you again. — AB
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Rafael Amador
June 13, 2009 at 10:06 amYou don’t need to convert to p25 but the i60 footage that you need.
I suggest you edit in a p25 sequence because you will end up in that format.
You only need to apply a de-interlace filter to the i50 footage.
If you are putting graphics in FC, it wont look the same if you render them as Progressive than if you render Interlaced and you de-interlace after.
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Ignatius Gorin
June 13, 2009 at 5:55 pm1/About sequence settings, what is better: that I keep my i50 sequence (that I DO have already of which 90% is i50 and about 10% is i60) and then apply Deinterlace, or that I create a new p25 sequence, paste everything (i50) in there and render? Then keep going on the p25. Am I gaining anything (quality/faster rendering, etc.)?
2/Now I have all these Brazilian clips on the timeline (jerky and video is off), and I just can not start over from scratch.
What I thought I’d do is create a new “NTSC” bin in FCP browser, create a new i60 sequence, put all i60 subclips from the i50 timeline to the i60 one (otherwise they’ll be i50 subclips if I put them from the i50 timeline direct to the bin), and from the i60 timeline to the “NTCS” bin, then (if needed duplicate everything as master clips) and batch export as i60, convert in compressor (to i50 or p25), put everything back in a “PAL” bin, and reintegrate on the timeline clip by clip.A few questions : is there a better work(around)flow (or “workflaw”…)? Do I need to export subclips as independant, or can it be reference only (i.e. will it slow down compressor or anything)?
Many thanks in advance (my deadline is Monday, and I still got work to do otherwise ; scary…).
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Rafael Amador
June 14, 2009 at 12:01 pmDo whatever let you work more freely and having RT Preview.
You can let the sequence i50 and before exporting set the field order to NONE. Then you need to set a de-interlacing filter in all the i50 footage.
Convert the i60 to p25 in Compressor. I think is the best option. If you copy&paste from one sequence to a new one don’t forget to remove Attributes (if any).
rafael
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