HDCAM (SR) archiving of multiple formats – best work flow ?

[Shane Ross]

Well, editing multiple frame rates is something an Avid does not do. AT ALL. You can mix and match FORMATS, but frame rates…Avid stops you dead in your tracks and says “Nuh huh…we aren’t having any of that here, bub.” So if they want to use all of this footage in ONE project….then you need to have a uniform frame rate. Now you have 59.94, 23.98 and 29.97. Yes, you could set up a tape for every format and frame rate…but my god, what a friggin HASSLE! They shoot tapeless…multiple formats…and now want it all on tape? I hope they are prepared to pay.

DO they know that P2 editing in Avid is native? That there is Red support as well? And XDCAM? This seems like a huge waste of time and resources…and some OLD SCHOOL Avid guys sticking HARD to their old OLD ways.

If you do this…convince them that you need to output all of these formats to tape as ONE SINGLE format. 1080i 29.97. Even the Progressive stuff. It will still be progressive, but with pulldown added to get it to 29.97.

This might be a huge cash cow for you…time and money to do this. I hope they know how much this will cost.

Shane

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[Sean Kapleton]

Shane I love this response?! LOL – You rock!!

You hit the nail on the head about old school AVID guys – its a major company too so they can pay and obviously we can bill : )

The producer wanted me to give a guestimate on how long it would take to do this and I honestly told her that I had no idea but that there was about 6 hours of footage all together! Any ideas on how long this might take the average worker bee junior editor (i.e. me) and what 1type of billing would be in order for a request like this?! I am having to deal with most of this on my own and I appreciate the responsibility given to me but definitely want to be sure not to mess anything up.

I just have a few questions if you or anyone else on this forum doesn’t mind before I start to hammer away at this I want to make sure I do it properly.

1) I had been advised on a previous post (by Matt Devino) to actually work in “a ProResHQ 1920×1080 29.97 timeline w/field dominance set to None. This will output to your HDCAM tape nicely” So I am just curious whether this meant that when it was time to actually output to HDCAMsr I was to set something differently in either sequence settings or output settings in order for it to be 1080i?!

2) If I have roughly 6 hours worth of footage all together (the majority being RED 23.98 Progressive 1920×1080 footage) how should I split it up – should it be split amongst x6 60 min HDCAMsr tapes?

If there any other suggestions on workflow, if you would change something about how I plan to go about slating each clip for example, or anything please feel free to chime in people / Shane. Again thank you for taking the time to read and respond to my post : )

cheers

Sean

[Sean Kapleton]

Shane are you there?

[Shane Ross]

Yeah, I’m here… I didn’t respond because I am not the authority on these formats. But, I’ll answer what I can.

[Sean Kapleton] “I am just curious whether this meant that when it was time to actually output to HDCAMsr I was to set something differently in either sequence settings or output settings in order for it to be 1080i?! “

He was most likely saying that you need to convert things to this format BEFORE you start editing. But HQ is overkill for things that aren’t 2K. Regular ProRes 422 is all you need.

[Sean Kapleton] “2) If I have roughly 6 hours worth of footage all together (the majority being RED 23.98 Progressive 1920×1080 footage) how should I split it up – should it be split amongst x6 60 min HDCAMsr tapes?”

Split it up by timing. If one tape holds 1 hours, then split it up into 6 tapes. But one tape might be longer than others, as you don’t want to cut shots in half. So…”YES.”

[Sean Kapleton] “If there any other suggestions on workflow, if you would change something about how I plan to go about slating each clip for example, or anything please feel free to chime in people / Shane”

I don’t do in depth on workflows, as I make a living…well, a SIDE living…helpin people with post workflows. I don’t give that out for free.

Shane

GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
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[Sean Kapleton]

fair enough thank you for getting back to me i appreciate it : )

cheers

sean

[Gary Adcock]

[Shane Ross] “I make a living…well, a SIDE living…helpin people with post workflows. I don’t give that out for free. “

here here….

gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows for the Digitally Inclined
Chicago, IL

https://library.creativecow.net/articles/adcock_gary/AJAIOHD.php

[Sean Kapleton]

thanks gary…