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HDCam clone to MiniDV back to HDCam
I just shot my senior thesis at NYU on super 16. I got it developed onto HDCam and am having troubles with my workflow.
I cloned the HDCam to mini DV. NYU told me I need to convert the miniDV’s footage from it’s 29.97 to 23.98 in order to be able to get the footage back online in HD when I’m done. Is that true?
This conversion process throws off my audio’s sync (and makes the footage warped…). When my footage is 29.97 all is well, but after a Cinema Tools conversion, it seems like everything is out of whack. It’s possible that I used Cinema Tools incorrectly, I just exported at a new FPS without changing any other settings.
What is the proper workflow? Do I need to convert my 29.97 miniDV to 23.98 to go back online later? If I need to convert using Cinema Tools, what specific settings do I need to go back to HDCam later (23.98 or 24)?
Thanks!
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[keith haskel] “NYU told me I need to convert the miniDV’s footage from it’s 29.97 to 23.98 in order to be able to get the footage back online in HD when I’m done. Is that true?”
Not necessarily, but that would be the easiest and best way to do it. If you stayed at 29.97, you’d have to export an EDL, and use CT to convert the EDL from 29.97 to 23.98. And even then, there might be frame slippage, something that would be adjusted in the online. But best to reverse telecine the DV to 23.98 and work that way.
[keith haskel] “This conversion process throws off my audio’s sync (and makes the footage warped…).”
How are you doing this conversion? How was your source recorded? At what frame rate?
The typical process is capture at 29.97, making sure that all of your in points are on 00 frames when possible (the A frame if you had film TC burned in). Then use the REVERSE TELECINE option in FCP or Cinema Tools.
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This is 16mm telecined to HDCAM tape. I’ll wager it was telecined at 23.98fps, since the film is 24fps. If that is the case (as has been my experience) then the only timecode you can have is NDF. 23.98 is an NDF format only. My HOPE would be that the DVCAM tapes are also NDF. so the pulldown removal will be accurate.
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[Shane Ross] “his is 16mm telecined to HDCAM tape. I’ll wager it was telecined at 23.98fps, since the film is 24fps.”
That should be correct. I had this exact workflow years ago from HDCam sources to DVCam downconverts. The DVCam should be 29.97 NDF. Capture into FCP as 29.97 and use Cinema Tools to reverse back to 23.98. Not sure if you need each capture needs to be on 0 and 5th frame cuz I think Cinema Tools will shave the clip to the 0 and 5th frame if it’s not.
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