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  • HD video on 4:3 screen

    Posted by Fred Williams on April 10, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    Good Morning:

    I am so lost right now and I have been reading these forums till I am blury eyed with no cure. Here is my problem. I shot a really nice video in HD using the Canon HV30. I used Sony Vegas and made everything look nice. It looks great on my HD Tv and on my computers. The problem lies in the projection system that I will be showing this video on. It’s a 10ft by 10 foot screen and uses a projection system that is not HD. The program they use to show all videos is Media Shout. When I tested my video before we showed it live, the program converts it to 4:3 which of course gives the long streached look.How do I make this work using this system so either it will show in letterbox and look good, or better yet,look good using the 4:3 screen with media shout? Any help in this would be gretaly appricated. One more thought. Using a regular SD camcorder, the video using this system looks really really clear, almost HD it’s so clear.
    Thanks again.

    Rick Williams replied 17 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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  • John Rofrano

    April 10, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    I assume you need to render to a format that uses square pixels. You didn’t say how you rendered the final output for Media Shout. Try rendering HD 1280x720p. A 1280x720p WMV file might be a good choice. This should display as letterboxed. I would ask the people who own Media Shout what formats it likes best.

    If that gets squished then you may need to produce a 4:3 letterbox version out of Vegas. The easiest way to create that would be to drop the 16:9 .veg file into a 4:3 project and render as 4:3. It will burn the letterbox into 4:3 aspect.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Fred Williams

    April 10, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    Thank you for your help, maybe my head will stop hurting now. I think using the 4:3 template will be the best way to handle it. I don’t have it in front of me, but I assume there is a 4:3 templte in this version of Vegas. If I understand you correctly, then using the
    HD 1280x720p templete and 1.000 pixils will show as letterbox on the screen correct. Or is it the 1.333 (See I am still a little confused) Thank you so much for the help and advice. It is appriciated.

  • Alex Keppler

    April 10, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    all you need to do is render the project as 4:3 in vegas like the last dude said. whenever you go to render usually it has 4:3 selected and you have to change to 16:9, but if you do have to change to 4:3 i think its just the “render as” button off the initial “render” screen”, then click “video” at the bottom, and one of the tabs on the screen will list the aspect ratios.

  • John Rofrano

    April 10, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    Here is the problem: if Media Shout doesn’t understand non-square pixels and you give it a file that uses a PAR of 1.3333 it is going to display it as if the PAR is 1.0000 and the image will look vertically squished. This is why I suggested that you give it a format with a PAR of 1.0000. That way it can’t get the PAR wrong.

    Having said that, it also might not be smart enough to handle widescreen ANYTHING, in which case rendering 1280x720p is not going to work either. This is why you have to ask the person who has the software or send them test files to see what the software does with it. That’s why I made the suggestion to render 4:3 video with the letterbox already added. This would be foolproof and you would be guaranteed to get letterboxed video.

    You really need to talk with person who owns the software and ask them what format looks best, then render to that format.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Fred Williams

    April 13, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    John

    Thank you again. I have a call into the owner of Media Shout, just waiting for his response. One of the guys that runs the program mentioned that Media Shout likes AVI files, but he was not sure about the PAR stuff. I’ll wait till the other gentleman calls back.
    Thank you for the help.
    Best Regards
    Fred

  • Fred Williams

    April 13, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    Thank you for your help and advice. I’m gonna try to play aound with the Media Shout Program and see what looks the best, but like you and John stated, Just making it into 4:3 may be the best option.
    Thanks

  • Rick Williams

    May 8, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    John:

    This is going to sound silly no doubt, but I am using Sony Movie platinum 9b. I can’t find any settings that say 4:3 project so I am assuming that is only in Vegas Pro. What would be a 4:3 project setting in movie studio be?

    Thanks

  • John Rofrano

    May 9, 2009 at 12:02 am

    Not a silly question at all. The NTSC DV project setting is 4:3. The problem is that it is SD not HD. There is no HD 4:3 setting because HD is 16:9. Do you know how you are going to render your project for Media Shout? If it’s SD then NTSC DV should be fine. Otherwise see if Movie Studio will let you create a custom 4:3 project that is HD. The settings would be 1440 x 1080 PAR 1.000. You can probably start with the HDV setting and just change the PAR to 1.000.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Rick Williams

    May 11, 2009 at 12:56 am

    John:

    Thank you. It all makes sense now. Yes Vegas Movie Studio will allow custom NTSC DV. I wll try it out and take it in to watch on media shout. I’ll let you know just for gp
    Thanks again

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