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HD to SD to HD workflow question
I’ll be cutting some spots shot on a sony f950 recorded to hdcam sr tape at 23.98. The original ftg will be converted to dvcam for offline. Online will be from the original tapes.
The dvcam tapes will be, obviously, at 29.97 with pulldown added. But I’d like to work in a 23.98 timeline. Will cinema tools handle this? Will I have to manually find the “A” frame for each captured segment? Or can I just depend on the TC on the dvcam to set an in frame for each segment?
If the collective wisdom is that I should work in a 29.97 NDF timeline instead, how accurate a list can I pull for the 23.98 online?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Michael Heldman
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Why do a DVcam offline? Just curious.
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Good question.
Mostly, to save drive space. This project will be edited in house (off an XSAN) and on the road.
Also, frankly, I’d rather not rent an HDCAM SR deck for the length of this job. And man, are they complicated.
Michael
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Yeah…that is VERY old school thinking. If you rent an HDCAM play deck, you can capture that HDCAM footage as DVCPRO HD with matching frame rate (23.98) and have no need to worry about A frames and removing pulldown.
But, if you must, capture as 23.97, yes, make sure the first frame is a 00 or A frame. Then use FCP or Cinema Tools to reverse telecine. Then you can export an accurate EDL.
But the first way is quicker and easier, and you are in an HD realm for offline.
Shane
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Thanks for the reply, Shane. And I’m the first to admit that I am rather old school. Or maybe just old.
An HDCAM deck is one thing, an HDCAM SR deck is another, no?
Michael
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[Shane Ross] “you can capture that HDCAM footage as DVCPRO HD with matching frame rate (23.98) and have no need to worry about A frames and removing pulldown. “
That was my thought too. If I were you you, I’d use a Kona 3 and capture to 720p23.98 DVCProHD if you want to save disk space (1080 will take up more disk space, but you could do that too 1080psf23.98). That will save you Cinema Tools and EDL conforms, and most importantly A frame capture headaches. You can easily edit 720p24 on the road. You can then online much easier from your source tapes when the time comes. DVCPro HD @ 720p24 is not too much bigger than dv considering you are making your workflow a bit easier.
Jeremy
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Heck, you can even capture as Offline RT HD at 23.98 and store that on your laptop internal system drive and online properly. I recently transcoded 450GB down to 16GB and it reconnected without much effort.
Look at it this way. How much would it cost to get DVCAM dubs of the footage as opposed to renting an HDCAM SR deck for a day? Pretty close in price. And the more simple you make the workflow, the easier things are in the end.
Shane
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Thank you, Jeremy and Shane, for your speedy and helpful replies. I’ll reconsider…
Michael
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[Michael Heldman] “An HDCAM deck is one thing, an HDCAM SR deck is another, no?”
Yes, but all the advice from Shane & Jeremy is still correct.
Arnie
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