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  • HD project to 4:3 eventually

    Posted by Bram Vergeer on September 30, 2008 at 9:00 pm

    I will edit a project that eventually must be in 4:3 format on DVD. I have the Sony HD HCR1e camera and I would like to film in HD since it’s better quality. I will capture in DV format in FCP but cause it’s HD format it’ll be in 16:9. Question: How do I get the project in 4:3 and how could I check that format while filming so noting will be out of the screen?

    Thanx for the help!

    Bram Vergeer replied 17 years, 7 months ago 3 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Bram Vergeer

    October 1, 2008 at 9:21 am

    Dear Dave,

    thanx for your reply. I’ll edit on a normal MacBook so I’m afraid it’s not powerfull enough to edit in HD. And I think that output from HD to SD isn’t available on FCP on by MacBook.

    Do you have a solution?

    Thanx bram

  • Walter Biscardi

    October 1, 2008 at 9:29 am

    [bram vergeer] “thanx for your reply. I’ll edit on a normal MacBook so I’m afraid it’s not powerfull enough to edit in HD. And I think that output from HD to SD isn’t available on FCP on by MacBook. “

    You should not be editing on a MacBook period quite honestly. MacBook Pro is really the minimum required machine for editing with FCP. That machine gives you a lot more options.

    If you insist on cutting on a MacBook, just shoot DV and forget about the HD for now.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

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  • Bouke Vahl

    October 1, 2008 at 11:53 am

    [bram vergeer] “Sony HD HCR1e”

    Just did a google search, this cam does not exist…

    [bram vergeer] “film in HD since it’s better quality”

    That remains to be seen. If you shoot HDV, you trade resolution for compression. Also, since you are going to ingest an SD downconvert, the RT scaling will also be a quality hit.

    Most HD cameras suck in recording SD, but there are more things to concider. Shooting wide will mess up your framing every now and then, speacially under stress. My advice, if you can, shoot 4:3 if the cam can produce decent images in 4:3 SD.

    If you are shooting NTSC, the 4:1:1 colorspace of DV vs 4:2:0 of MpegII for DVD will byte you. If you ingest in SD, pick a 4:2:2 codec. (for Pal this is a non-issue)

    All in all, just do some testing of different workflows and just look at the end results and pain to get there, make a decision based on that.

    Bouke

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  • Walter Biscardi

    October 1, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    [Bouke Vahl] “Most HD cameras suck in recording SD,. “

    Which cameras would that be? Most high end HD cameras only shoot HD, SD is not an option.

    The Sony Z1 and V1 shoot excellent SD.

    The Panny HVX-200 shoots excellent SD.

    So I’m just curious, which professional HD cameras you have found that do not shoot good quality SD. I haven’t seen one yet other than the JVC’s which are a story unto themselves.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

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  • Bouke Vahl

    October 1, 2008 at 1:40 pm

    Walter,
    No opinion about the pro HD cameras. I do not see them here, HD isn’t happening in broadcast yet.

    But of course i get a lot of miniDV tapes from prosumer HD cameras.

    the Canon XL H1 sucks in SD, not in the least as the black is way too high. (And of course when set to ‘create better faces’ it acts like a witness protection system…)

    I’ve seen material from some (dunno the types) Sony prosumer cams, it sucks, and from a (i believe) Panasonic, it sucks…

    (I’m not a shooter, i just edit and get tapes in.)

    All have way too much aliasing.

    I have one client still shooting with a Ikegami HLV 55, and that one still outperforms any modern cheapo cam.

    Bouke

    https://www.videotoolshed.com/
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  • Bram Vergeer

    October 2, 2008 at 12:08 pm

    Hi Bouke,

    thanks for your help. I’m shooting with the Sony HDR-HC1E and (of course) always in HD. But now the organisation I work for wants the DVD in 4:3 since it’s being shown at primary schools with old TV’s….Anyway, I’m looking for the way to get the best quality possible…But I never shot in SD with my cam so I’m a bit nervouw about that….

    Thanks bram

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