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  • HD on a SD timeline

    Posted by Gregory Leno on October 13, 2006 at 8:14 pm

    Does zooming and scaling Video in FCPHD work the same as bringing in a still photo?
    In other words, can I bring in DVCPRO HD footage onto an 10 bit uncompressed SD timeline and do camera like moves on the HD footage?

    Here’s the scenario…

    We have a Green Screen project that will be shot in DVCPRO HD.
    We will shoot a person full length and want to have the option of pulling into a medium or tight shot of her as the virtual set would dictate.
    So to accomplish that, the thought is to place the HD footage on a SD timeline thinking that it will be to large for it and we could then scale away.

    The small test that I did seemed to automatically resize the HD footage to fit the SD timeline, even though the media properties said that it was still at the HD size.
    When I scaled it up in the canvas window it looked like garbage…. and yes it was monitored on an NTSC monitor.

    Thanks

    Greg

    System=
    G5 dual 2.0 –
    3.5g Ram –
    160g internal hd –
    250g internal hd –
    Two 500g Lacie Big Disks via Firewire –
    20in Apple cinema display-
    FCPHD 5.0.4

    Gregory Leno replied 19 years, 6 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Leigh Jewell

    October 13, 2006 at 10:17 pm

    I just did a test as well and it worked just fine. After you place the HD footage into the timeline, double click it and open it in the Viewer. It should show that it is scaled down. You should then be able to scale it at least up to 100% with no issues. I’m assuming that your frame rates match?

    Leigh

  • Joseph Bradley

    October 14, 2006 at 12:01 am

    you can also do a scale up or down in your motion tab

  • Gregory Leno

    October 14, 2006 at 12:41 am

    Thanks for your help.
    I am able to scale the footage now.

    However when I send the clip to Motion (the program) for keying it shows up in Motion scaled up another 50% or so than what I have set in FCP.
    When it is saved in Motion and then sent back to FCP it is still at the larger scale.

    ???

    Greg

    System=
    G5 dual 2.0 –
    3.5g Ram –
    160g internal hd –
    250g internal hd –
    Two 500g Lacie Big Disks via Firewire –
    20in Apple cinema display-
    FCPHD 5.0.4

  • Ben Holmes

    October 15, 2006 at 9:28 am

    Do you have the project frame size in motion correct? It defaults to non-broadcast sizes sometimes.

    Motion does not attempt to resize the HD video into a timeline in the same way as FCP does. FCP assumes you want to put any video into the timeline at a scale that outputs it full frame – not a bad idea really. Motion is software designed for a completely differentg purpose, and makes no assumptions about what you want to do with the footage you import.

    Can I ask why you need to key in motion? FCP has a keyer that (as far as I know) is just as good – unless you want to composite other elements. Keeping your entire workflow within FCP will speed up things considerably.

    Ben

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  • Gregory Leno

    October 17, 2006 at 1:16 am

    The reason I brought it into Motion is that I have the DVmatte plug keyer for Motion and I was just experimenting as what I could do in both programs.(btw, the plugin is very nice!)

    I had not realized that Motion and FCP treated the footage differently. Thanks, that’s very good to know… and your right it makes sense. Is that info in the Manual? I haven’t seen it.

    Thanks again for you help.

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