HD monitoring using Apple Cinema Display

[Jonathan Palmer]

How many HD projects are viewed on a crt HDTV? Most are plasma/LCD variety right? So whats gained by coloring on a crt? My guess is that they might have “truer” color space. I bought one of the 23″hd CD’s for the same reason, cause I don’t have 4G’s to drop on a hd crt monitor.

SD no question- Must be colored on a broadcast monitor.
I guess I asked more questions than I answered- but inquiring minds want to know.
JP

[David Garcia]

apparently there is a black magic box that will somehow boos the gamma or something to make the apple display more video-like and reliable. It converts the dvi to sdi or something.

We just got the new Panasonic 17″ Broadcast monitor and it’s cool. SD looks a little dodgy being uprezzed, but the Color is good and it’s nice to have the broadcast monitor controls. It’s 720p native I believe, which is probably be the bulk of our projects.

[Gary Adcock]

[liv2snoride] “How many HD projects are viewed on a crt HDTV? Most are plasma/LCD variety right? So whats gained by coloring on a crt? My guess is that they might have “truer” color space.”

Yes a CRT does have a truer color space remember that computer displays render in RGB, Video is YUV,
Apple does not recommend using a Cinema display for Color Correction and neither do most of the leader on this list.
it is also a progressive vers interlaced for the format.

Gary Adcock
Studio37
HD and Film Consultation
Chicago, IL USA

[Kevin Monahan]

The box you need is a BlackMagic HD-Link for accurate monitoring with your Cinema Display.

Kevin Monahan
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[Gary Adcock]

[Kevin Monahan] “for accurate monitoring with your Cinema Display”

FCP5 manual ( PDF version) Page 219

Digital Cinema Desktop Preview only works with AGP graphics cards. For triple
monitor configurations, you should use a PCI graphics card for your computer
display, and an AGP graphics card for any monitors you intend to use for Digital
Cinema Desktop Preview.

Due to the refresh rate of LCD computer monitors, 1080i 60 and 720p60 material may
exhibit temporal artifacts during playback.

Interlaced media is scanned progressively at the frame rate instead of the field rate,
Therefore, when viewing formats such as 1080i 60 or standard definition NTSC or PAL,
both fields are scanned simultaneously, which may result in interlacing artifacts.

If you need to change your display resolution, do so prior to launching Final Cut Pro.

LCD Cinema Displays have a longer decay period between each frame when
compared to lines being scanned on a CRT. At times, the same video image may be
visible on screen for a period of up to four to seven frames.

Turning on Digital Cinema Desktop playback can reduce the number of real-time
effects available in your sequence. However, the real-time status of these effects is
not updated in the Effects menu or the Effects tab in the Browser).

from the apple web site
https://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93797

If you are doing critical online editing or color correction, you may still want to use an external CRT video monitor, especially when your final output is interlaced broadcast video

Gary Adcock
Studio37
HD and Film Consultation
Chicago, IL USA

[Kevin Monahan]

Very good point Gary.

Kevin Monahan
Take My FCP Master’s Seminar!
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[Scott Brown]

I can highly recommend JVC’s 19″ HD CRT – this cost us around

[Gary Adcock]

[Scott Brown] “I don’t mean to be rude, however if you cannot justify spending the money, then perhasp you should not be considering HD at all – premium product / premium price, that’s my attitude.”

Scott,
it is really a fact of life, that doing HD is not cheap and I don’t care what the ads tell you HD is not plug and Play. I too come from a world where the best CRT displays cost $20K (US) and up, a good SDI broadcast display still can cost over $2k.
Funny that people think that a Broadcast HD display should cost less then the one they get for home at Best Buy (or Dixson’s in the UK)

Gary Adcock
Studio37
HD and Film Consultation
Chicago, IL USA

[Kelly]

When High Definition cameras are going for under $5000, are you surprised that people choke at paying $20,000 for a monitor? Not everybody on this forum works with HDCAM SR (in fact, I would suggest that those who do are in the minority). Telling the poster to “suck it up, or get out of HD” is, in my opinion, just a little bit rude. I don’t mean to be rude in turn, but he came here for help and advice, not condescension.

TV is called a medium, because it is neither rare, nor well done (He..he…)

[Carlo G]

Well, I didn’t realize that my post would start such a lengthy discussion. I’d like to thank everyone for their input, proving once again, how valuable this forum is. I will say this however; after working in TV for over 25 years both at Broadcast Networks and at some of New York’s top post houses I now find myself sitting in my attic, editing HD footage on a $2500 computer (you can