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HD Monitoring Again!
I am currently in the process of selling my video production studio of 25 years and opening a new one 300 miles away. All of my equipment-(3)edit bays, sound stage, duperoom, disc room, etc., etc., stays, according to the contract. I am being very careful reinvesting in equipment. In my new market area, there may be some true HD work, but plans are for DVCPro HD/50/25 (HVX 200’s) and HDV. I need 1 or 2 monitors for a final project for the rest of this year. Anything I purchase needs to handle my move to HD. The HD footage I’ve seen on the somewhat affordable JVC CRT’s looked almost as good as the very expensive Sony’s. But like many of you who frequent this forum, I would prefer to go LCD and/or Plasma. I have read most of the posts on many of the Cow’s forums on this very subject. But it still seems to me that CRT is the only real way to go re. 1920 x 1080, especially for color grading, etc. I would love to find a reasonably priced LCD of around 20″ to 26″ that does a good job displaying both 1080 and 720 and give reasonably accurate color. Apple Cinema, HP and Dell seem to be mentioned the most. Another feature desirable for the current upcoming job is ability to show 2 separate displays, split screen, side-by-side, on the same monitor. I actually need to aquire this unit within the next 7 days. Any suggestions anyone?
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I have the 17″ JVC monitor in for testing. At 720p you don’t see all the detail that I can see on my 23″ cinema display+hdlink+decklink HD Pro combo. At 1080 it’s noticibly deficient in resolution. Colour seems fine, but then again, I have no complaints about the colour on the LCD. The only issue with the LCD is interlace doesn’t display quite right.
https://www.lafcpug.org/reviews/review_decklink.html
is my article on the HDLink.
Graeme
– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP
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I am hoping to find an LCD, if it is indeed less than 1920 x 1080(such as either 1280 x 720 or 1388 x 720) that displays 1080i well. Seems to be the biggest complaint, unless of course you go the full 1080 to begin with. Then there is the problem of displaying 720 on a 1080 unit. Anyone found a display that handles these scenarios?
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I was under the impression that the Dell that everyone is raving about could display full rez 1080 and 720 – both at full screen size (with the 720 filling the screen and not a reduced image sitting in the middle).
Is this not so. I was going to buy one.
Best
Harry.
Harry Bromley-Davenport
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I think it can. But if you get the image sitting in the midle, you’re sure you’re seeing what the 720p pixels look like, not, perhaps, any scaling artifacts taking it up to 1080p. Personally, I’d like the choice of both.
Graeme
– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP
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Graeme,
[Graeme Nattress] “Personally, I’d like the choice of both.”
I don’t know about the Dell, but the HP 23″ does both and although it’s a little more pricy than the Dell 24″ it does one thing much better than the Dell which may be critical to some folks. Both scale 720p to full screen very well, but the Dell scaling of SD resolution is gastly and extremely noisy, whereas the HP does an excellent job with SD.
BTW, Graeme, thanks for being around the COW. I have learned so much from your posts here and on the HDV Forum.
Ron Shook
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[Ron Shook] “…whereas the HP does an excellent job with SD.”
I also onw L2335 and I really don’t like the quality it gives to PAL-dv exported through fw from computer and imported to display through s-video.
Getting a high quality monitor for hd is quite a problem at this time.
If you want highest quality now, you still need a crt hd video monitor, preferrably with 10bit colors hd-sdi card and 5 figures in price tag.Lcd’s are getting better really fast and the newest ones are beginning to be very close to crt’s.
Some do present 601/709 color space quite perfectly, but are limited to 8bit colors.
Just last gen displays couldn’t disply even 8bit colors accurately, but now that they are beginning to be able to do that, there is a possibility to do that with dvi connector: with dual link and reduced blanking it is possible to display 16bit colors with 1920×1080/1200 resolution by using the first link of dual link to msb of color data and second link to lsb of color data. There just isn’t any graphics card or display available that does that.And my guess is that there will never be these since VESA is bringing out a new standard for linking displays called DisplayLink. So maybe those high color accuracy flat screens with displaylink are coming to stores sometime in next year.
But right now options would be very expensive crt or cheaper lesser quality lcd’s for short time use, until better ones arrive. Choise also depends on how sensitive one’s eyes are for watching flickering crt for hours a day.
Dell’s 24″ was the first hd-resolution lcd that has over 1000:1 contrast ratio in real life.
Way better than now a bit outdated Apple’s cinema displays or even HP’s L2335.
New Eizo 24″ might also be worth for a test drive with professional calibrator and I’ve heard rumors that brand new Acer 24″ might be pretty good also. -
i see LCD’s & Plasma at many post houses for clients to view project etc and those LARGE screens do look impressive in all the rooms ( even waiting room ) ..
however when it comes time to color grading i have NEVER anybody use a LCD or plasma screen … -
Expensive high end post houses can use those expensive crt’s.
On the other hand most of press/printing/still photography color grading is already done with lcd’s.
One reason for this is that you can’t get high quality crt’s to computers any more.
My guess is that hd crt’s start disappearing next year. Lsd’s are better enough then and there are new techs coming like SED and OLED.
Led-LCD’s might becaome also very nice. Like the BrightSide is already.
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Btw, don’t you think there’s something paradoxal that movies that go to 100′ screens are graded with 32″ or smaller monitors?
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Yeah but they are wanting $50,000 for A TV SET! Let’s get real.
Brian FitzGerald
FitzVideo.com
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