HD Monitoring

[Graeme Nattress]

Cheapest is probably a Dell 24″ LCD that you plug into the component out on the camera. To get better than that, a decklink multibridge extreme into a Apple cinema display or the Dell. That way, you don’t tie up the camera as much.

Graeme

– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

[Gary Adcock]

[reyflem] “My question is: what is the most cost effective way to get true HD monitoring from the HVX200 on this rig? Will I need to purchase a seperate card (Blackmagic or Kona or whatever)? Or Can I use the Cinema display to play back / edit in true HD?”

I disagree with Graeme, Apple does not support true HD monitoring using the cinema displays. you cannot color correct properly to one of these types (Dell, apple) and they can produce an inconsistent preview with interlaced content.

I recommend either a samsung 27/30in CRT on the low-end, or a good plasmas. I carry a panasonic bth1700 display on the road with me under 3K and very portable.

Gary Adcock
Studio37
HD and Film Consultation
Chicago, IL USA

[Graeme Nattress]

Apple might not support it, but I do. Stick an affordable HD monitor like the JVC next to the cinema display running off the decklink and the only difference is the higher resolution on the cinema display. Colour wise they’re close enough. Colour wise the LCD is more than good enough. Sure, interlaced is a problem, but if interlaced video is not dead yet, then it surely should be. If you really need to see interlace, get a CRT, or better still a nice big DLP HD projector and let it de-interlace and watch that. Lovely.

When Apple say they don’t support it, they’re refering to their ghastly quality desktop cinema preview mode, which is just that – preview quality only. Going over SDI to a HDLink to the same display produces a vastly superior picture.

Graeme

– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

[Graeme Nattress]

Oh, and plasmas are ghastly. IMHO. Much worse than the LCD displays. A Plasma can make even the nicest uncompressed HD look like HDV….

Graeme

– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

[Toke]

You can use computer monitors for color grading if you just calibrate and profile them perfect.
Then you just need something like eye-one and a good software with it.
With those you could also buy another graphics pci-e graphics card and add second display to that.
Then you can have 1:1 pixel monitoring and nice long time line in 30″ to work efficiently.

[Reyflem]

Thanks all for taking the time to chime in. Greatly appreciated.

[Gary Adcock]

[toke lahti] “You can use computer monitors for color grading if you just calibrate and profile them perfect.”

No, not for transmission via broadcast satellite.
Scripts claims that 99% of items color corrected on computer displays fail broadcast standards.

[toke lahti] “Then you just need something like eye-one and a good software with it.”
sorry I do not know of any software and hardware combo that supports the rec709 color space calibration on an Apple display.

Gary Adcock
Studio37
HD and Film Consultation
Chicago, IL USA

[Toke]

[gary adcock] “sorry I do not know of any software and hardware combo that supports the rec709 color space calibration on an Apple display.”

The idea in profiling is not to limit display’s ability to show colors.
You profile it to show everything it can perfectly with right tones and after that you can compare how wide the color space is. Most new hq lcd’s exceed 601 color space, so I believe they are very near for handling 709 space.

[Graeme Nattress]

You can’t blame the monitoring gear for failing broadcast standards when it’s obvious the failings are in the user, not the gear.

https://www.ecinemasys.com/products/edp100/edp100_intro.htm

Graeme

– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

[Gunleik Groven]

Hi

I’m about to buy a Multibridge Extreme among other things for it’s minitoring features.

Having seen your review of BM’s HD link is one thing that pushes me in that direction.
How’s that comparable to the ecinemasys box, giving you’ve tried them both.

And does both (or one) come with better tools for setting up the monitor?

Gunleik
(who’s in the low-end budget range, but still need to see what I do…)