HD EX-1 and H264 with DV SD edit for SD DVD

[Jeff Greenberg]

Do the HD edit on a 1080p timeline. Finish.

Then:

Make an 4:3 MPEG 2 using Adobe Media Encoder
Make a Blu-Ray MPEG2 or h.264 using Adobe Media Encoder.

The only other thoughts here are a question on how you’ll grab the XD cam footage. Grab it in FCP and transcode it to ProRes. Or just handle it in Premiere Pro via the Media Browser.

Best,

Jeff G

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[Jim Wiseman]

Thanks for the info, Jeff! Some questions:
Should the edit timeline be 23.98 1080p? Will the SD DV material at 29.97 720x486i cause any problems? I am noticing that it comes in at a small size on a 1920×1080 timeline but I have heard there is a way to scale it up, ideally to the letterbox 1080 height for the SD DVD, if you follow me. Also will the 29.97 frame rate of the DV material cause any difficulty on a 23.98 timeline?

Finally, should the SD DVD be kept at 23.98 fps or rendered at 29.97? I know the newer DVD players will add pulldown, but there may be some older players viewing this. It is for the state library system and public schools, so it needs to be as compatible as possible. Broadcasters (local PBS in Hawaii) use 29.97 1080i as well, don’t they? I believe the BluRay can be either frame rate as they can add pulldown.

Thanks so much for your help!

Jim Wiseman
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[Jeff Greenberg]

Yeah, in thinking it through, I’m a little wrong on the prior post.

I think you’ll need two timelines: I’d cut the HD one, scaling up the SD clips (you’ll have to do those manually, else they’ll be ‘pillar’ boxed.)
When finished, I’d suggest copy/pasting the entire timeline into an SD timeline, and then choosing the “scale to sequence”) with all the clips selected. All the HD clips will be scaled down (and letterboxed) while the SD clips will return to their normal size.

Both SD DVDs and BluRay can handle 24 material correctly for playback – Older DVD players handle the playback too – but if you’re worried, why not just build the SD timeline @ 29.97? I’m pretty sure the 23.98 is part of the original spec – meaning it should be compatible.

[Jim Wiseman] ” I am noticing that it comes in at a small size on a 1920×1080 timeline but I have heard there is a way to scale it up, ideally to the letterbox 1080 height for the SD DVD,”

Yup, Premiere Pro handles everything (by default) as a mapping of 1:1 pixels – you can scale it up manually (which is what you want for the SD in the HD sequence). There’s a cool “Scale to sequence size” choice, but it’ll pillar box.

Disclaimer: don’t trust me or anyone else here; test this yourself with 30 sec-1 min of footage and be sure.

Best,

Jeff G

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[Jim Wiseman]

Thanks Jeff! I’ve really been beating my head against this one!

Jim Wiseman
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