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Jeff Bernstein
May 2, 2005 at 5:41 amThe FUD factor here is way out of control. The beauty of a forum.
For the record, here are the facts…
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Walter Biscardi
May 2, 2005 at 12:17 pm[Oliver Peters] “When you copy HD-SDI to HD-SDI between DVCProHD decks you are decompressing and recompressing a very lossy codec. There is no way this can be considered a “clone”. FW transfer should be a file transfer without additional codec cycles, but effects will degrade it quickly. “
I’m not talking about deck to deck transfers. I’m talking about HD-SDI out of the Kona 2 to HD-SDI Input on the Deck. Right now we are seeing that HD-SDI yields a cleaner image back to tape than Firewire.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
https://www.biscardicreative.comNow in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Oliver Peters
May 2, 2005 at 2:43 pm>>[Jeff Bernstein] All of the broadcast networks have standardized on D5HD, for now.<< Jeff, What is your basis for this statement? Sincerely, Oliver Oliver Peters Post-Production & Interactive Media Orlando, FL http://www.oliverpeters.com
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Oliver Peters
May 2, 2005 at 2:48 pm[walter biscardi] “I’m not talking about deck to deck transfers. I’m talking about HD-SDI out of the Kona 2 to HD-SDI Input on the Deck. Right now we are seeing that HD-SDI yields a cleaner image back to tape than Firewire. ”
Walter,
Which codec inside FCP? The same basic concept is true deck-to-deck and deck-to-Kona2-to-deck. The video still has to go through a decompression step when it goes HD-SDI out and then recompression when it goes HD-SDI in. The VTR electronics still add a level of error correction and concealment in this path that doesn’t occur in FW transfer. I wonder if there is any verification in the FW path to make sure all the bits go through without problems. I doubt it since this is RT, though that’s simply a guess on my part.
Sincerely,
OliverOliver Peters
Post-Production & Interactive Media
Orlando, FL
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Walter Biscardi
May 2, 2005 at 2:51 pm[Oliver Peters] “Which codec inside FCP?”
DVCPro HD all the way through. I agree that Firewire should be a lossless clone, we’re just not seeing that here with our deck and our lay-offs. I’ve had a client look at the resulting master along with an engineer and HD editor at the facility where our show is mastered and all agree, the HD-SDI recording is signficantly cleaner than the Firewire recording.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
https://www.biscardicreative.comNow in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Jeff Bernstein
May 2, 2005 at 6:47 pmMy basis is that I live and work in Los Angeles for each of these networks. Plus, a little bird told me before it got runover on the freeway.
Jeff Bernstein
Digital Desktop Consulting
Apple Pro Video VAR
XSAN Certified323-653-7611
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Jeff Bernstein
May 2, 2005 at 6:47 pmMy basis is that I live and work in Los Angeles for each of these networks. Plus, a little bird told me before it got runover on the freeway.
Jeff Bernstein
Digital Desktop Consulting
Apple Pro Video VAR
XSAN Certified323-653-7611
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