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  • Having problem with my text after rendering in premiere pro

    Posted by Chinuch on October 17, 2006 at 9:33 am

    I,m working on pal project and have been having alot of trouble with my titles. I created them in photoshop (768 x 567 at 72 dpi) and saved them as psd’s, they looked fine when I added them to the timeline , but after I render them they always look pixelated. I tried saving them as tiff’s , I flattend the image nothing worked, I even tried creating my titles in premiere and the same thing happend after I renderd it. It’s really frustrating, if anyone has any tips I would greatly appreciate it.
    See attached link for a sample of before and after rendering.

    https://home.telkomsa.net/mendy/Levi/render.htm

    Charles Cunliffe replied 16 years, 2 months ago 5 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Mike Velte

    October 17, 2006 at 11:29 am

    Why use Premiere to render stills? How do they appear when viewed on a TV from Premiere’s timeline?
    Also suggest using the appropriate NTSC or PAL preset in Photoshop for correct resolution. Use 230.230.230 for text color and turn off anti-aliasing in PS.
    It is nearly impossible to make bad looking text (on a TV) in Premiere’s titler.

  • Vince Becquiot

    October 17, 2006 at 4:06 pm

    The pixelation you are referring to is compression, that looks like DV and it is perfectly normal if you are compressing a static picture. DV was never meant for that, and you really shouldn’t use it past the preview render in Premiere.

    What is you final media? If it’s DVD, export as mpeg2 or uncompressed for your DVD application. In fact just export a small segment and look at the image. If it’s Mpeg 2 you will probably still see a little pixelation around the edges, if it’s uncompressed, you shouldn’t.

    If you are exporting back to DV tape, get used to it 😉

    Vince

  • Chinuch

    October 17, 2006 at 4:59 pm

    Thanks for your help.

    Mike, we are forced to render the stills in order to export the project.
    We have set up the titles using the Photoshop presets. We have even tried using the background colors from a psd file and Premieres titler for the text but we get the same results.

    Vincent, how do we export the stills without rendering them, Premier seems to automatically render all files before exporting.
    Our final media is DVD, I have tried exporting to uncompressed and it looks the same.

    Does the text size and background colors make any difference as the pixilation seems to be stronger on some colors and not so bad on others.

    Also when we use the same preset in Photoshop but use bigger black text against a white background we get a perfect picture after rendering with no pixilation at all.

  • Tclark

    October 17, 2006 at 5:30 pm

    Do you have After Effects? I do all of my titles in After Effects and usally do not have that problem. I would be curious to see if that helps you.

  • Vince Becquiot

    October 17, 2006 at 5:41 pm

    Chinuch,

    What you posted was DV compressed. The black on white text will be much cleaner because it contains a lot less information and will easily fit within the DV data rate without heavy compression.

    Premiere will compress the timeline to DV (if you work in DV), but that’s mostly so that you can preview it through firewire, it won’t affect the final export. I’m not saying that you won’t see any difference since you are going to a different format. The picture may somewhat look softer, but the pixelation shouldn’t be there.

    Designing in Photoshop for PAL isn’t part of my experience, and I’m sure it isn’t as bad as NTSC 😉

    Avoid high saturation, keep colors within broadcast specs, and avoid very sharp edges.

    BTW, by uncompressed I mean: File type: Microsoft AVI, Compressor: none, and uncheck recompress at the bottom.

    Vince

  • Charles Cunliffe

    March 6, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    i am having the same problem. Had it when the files came from after effects as well to a certain extent.

    But I created my slides in photoshop, 16 x 19, 300 DPI imported them into premier pro, and then created my show.
    Looks great in preview window, once rendered or exported as avi file they look pixelated.

    I looked for a way to check “uncompressed” under an avi file, and found only one way that made it a custom files and when I played it back only had audio. (CS4)

    If you could try once more in detail to explain how you exported that avi file it might really help,. Thanks!

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