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have I made a mistake changing to vegas
Posted by Thomas Quinn on November 20, 2005 at 6:23 pmI posted the question below on friday I got two replys from Edward Troxel & Chris Young am I to conclude that the all singing all dancing Vegas can not do proper picture in picture something that most chepo video editing packages can do. I moved from using a Casablanca Kron bought a expensive computer for Vegas on the apparent superior capabilitie of Vegas I am now thinking I may have made a mistake because of somthing so basic not being usable
ThomasI am using track motion to have four screens on one background I shoot in PAL I have rendered to mpeg2 the problem is when played back on the computer screen or on a a DVD on a TV any shot with a pan or any movement has a desperate jagged or vertical wave look which spoils the shot is there another way to do picture in picture in Vegas 6 or how do I fix this using track motion.
ThomasChris Young replied 20 years, 5 months ago 10 Members · 14 Replies -
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Imants Ozers
November 20, 2005 at 7:29 pmYes YOU have made a mistake! I do pip in vegas all the time with no problems. Have you set something wrong in your render settings, interlace method, etc…??? I mostly use default settings with very good results.
Of course you could just buy a mac, fecal cut pro, or avid excess, and not only will it do pip for you all by itself perfectly but it will make your coffee and fluff your pillow at bedtime! But really you sound like an adobe premier person – there are so many good training products available for that stuff… no really, I’m not kidding.
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Adam Rose esq.
November 20, 2005 at 9:08 pmonly four? I thought initially you were complaining about something difficult
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Vegas does PIP in its sleep, and not only that, will do it in 3D if you want, which is not something most other NLEs can boast. If you’re getting poor quality output, rest assured you need to read the manual, or get some training DVDs, or take a more tactful approach.
btw, if you’ve seen those HP ads that were all the rage recently, that is something easily done in Vegas, which is slicker use of PIP than most people require.
give us more info on your settings and we might be able to help. No, I haven’t looked for your previous thread.
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Edward Troxel
November 20, 2005 at 10:50 pm -
Randall3
November 21, 2005 at 12:39 am‘any shot with a pan or any movement has a desperate jagged or vertical wave look’
1. Did you turn off ‘track motion?’
2. Did you encode at a low bit rate? VBR?
3. Did you try deinterlacing the footage/photo before encoding? -
Mike Kujbida
November 21, 2005 at 3:02 amIn case no one took the time to read Chris Young’s reply to Thomas’s original question, it seems that PAL users have a periodic problem with resizing in both track motion and pan/crop.
Chris has tried all the solutions suggested here (and then some) and has not been able to resolve this problem either.
Seems to me like it’s another bug that only shows up in the PAL format.
For example, there’s a time code entry bug that is limited to the PAL format as well.
Sounds like it’s time for an email to Sony tech support, although complaints about the time code bug have apparently fallen on deaf ears so far 🙁Mike
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Adam Rose esq.
November 21, 2005 at 7:05 amunderstood, though am a PAL user and have never had the problem
luck for the draw
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Barend Jasper
November 21, 2005 at 10:39 amMe neither. I am 100% PAL and just made 16 PIP’s, without any problem whatsoever.
Barend
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Dave Mccallister
November 21, 2005 at 8:07 pmThere is a checkbox in the properties screen for each video element marked “reduce interlace flicker.” This stopped the wavy tearing effect cold for me on a PIP this morning.
This was ahead of any MPEG rendering…I was still working with avi’s when I saw the artifacts in the PIP. Using Vegas 6.0c, NTSC DV.
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Thomas Quinn
November 22, 2005 at 1:19 amThanks everyone who took the time to reply to my question. The idear of the subject message was to get more replys which it did as I love using Vegas to edit. Reduce interlace flicker fixed near all of the problem but a few fast moving shots (which I have now replaced) I may be tempted to go for one of the systems suggested by Art
( you could just buy a mac, final cut pro, or avid excess, and not only will it do pip for you all by itself perfectly but it will make your coffee and fluff your pillow at bedtime!)
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Chris Young
November 26, 2005 at 12:54 pmThomas ~
This problem has been bugging me for some while now. I have now had a bit more of a chance to try and get my head around the problem and seem to have found an answer… so far! I tried a 4 x pic-n-pic over a background with the worst offending material I had. One pic was of fast motion basketball players running with a quick moving camera. Another shot was kids running around in a park playing ball. The third shot was a camera tracking down a covered pathway following people. In this shot the pillars that held the roof up were a nightmare when p-n-pic’ed previously. In fact all three of these clips have all caused problems before. The last shot was just a fairly static group of people sitting around talking which I included to see if any answers to the motion field splitting problem were going to impact on the more static type shots. In the long run it didn’t
After having another good read of the Vegas manual I decided to try the following:
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