Hard Drive Capacity for HD

[Shane Ross]

What format of HD were they shot? 720P? 1080P? What frame rate? 59.94? 29.97? 23.98?

720p24 at 8-bit uncompressed (the low end of the spectrum) takes up 150GB per hour
1080i59.94 at 10-bit uncompressed (high end) takes up about 1.19TB per hour

Now…that is a LOT of space. People don’t generally capture uncompressed HD for offline editing. They capture at a lower resolution, say DVCPRO HD, lock the cut, THEN capture at HIGH REZ. DVCPRO HD looks great and doesn’t take up that much space. 720p60 takes up 53GB per hour, and 720p24 takes up a mere 22GB per hour.

100 tapes at 40 min each equal 67 hours. Capturing that at 720p at 23.98 means that that will all fit on 1.5TB drive. But then you’d have no room to render, so getting a 2TB drive would be the minimum. When you are done cutting you then capture ONLY the footage used in the cut at high res, with handles. SO you might look for a 3.5 to 5 TB Raid array.

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Shane

Littlefrog Post
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[Jeremy Garchow]

4000 minutes of uncompressed 10 bit 1080i footage will be…………

Just over 40 (forty) Terabytes w/2 channels of audio. Prepare for loooong render times and double the storage for the render files. I would suggest capturing @ DVCPro HD that would knock it down to 4 Terabytes. Hell, I’d probably capture in SD with that amount of footage (unless your budget is never ending) and then I’d online at the end.

You would need a dedicated IT department the size of Google’s to manage that amount of storage.

For comparison, that amount of footage will be a Terabyte when capturing in ntsc dv.

You should download the free AJA Data rate calculator so you can make informed calculations.

https://www.aja.com/ajashare/AJA_Data_Rate_Calculator_v2.app.tar

Jeremy

[13]

Exactly what model camera is it you said that it is a SONY 900, the closest thing to that I could find with a google search is the SONY TRV-900 which has not been made in 5 years and is certainly not a HD camera. And Sony’s camera site seems to be down right now.

You said that you have FCP HD aka FCP 4.5. If it is an HDV camera then you will need to get a newer version of FCP because even though FCP 4.5 will do HD it will NOT do HDV.

[John Foley]

Besides the necessity for a BIGGGG! RAID system, you don’t mention how you are going to capture this. Do you have a capture card capable of uncompressed HD at 4:2:2 and a tape deck capable of handling these tapes?

Another thing – which computer are you using for this project. It had better be a later PCI-X or PCI-Express version if you want to be able to capture and support uncompressed HD storage. The early G5 computers had plain PCI slots which have slower bandwidth and are not capable of capturing uncompressed HD.

Storing 60 hours of uncompressed HD tapes is cost prohibitave unless your client has very deep pockets. You are looking at slightly more than 4×10.5 TB XServe RAIDs at about $15K each.

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[Margus Voll]

Hi.

I would go with new FCP and ProRez codeq.
It gives you really big advantage in disk space.

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Margus

https://iconstudios.eu

[David Roth weiss]

The Sony F900 HDCAM is the world’s number one selling HD camera.

[Walter Biscardi]

[David Roth Weiss] ”
The Sony F900 HDCAM is the world’s number one selling HD camera.”

It is? I thought the HVX-200 / HDX-900 were right up there. Are you talking total cameras sold, or just in the last two years?

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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[Gary Adcock]

[David Roth Weiss] “The Sony F900 HDCAM is the world’s number one selling HD camera.”

Not true.
there are actually more Varicams on the market now and they are out selling the F900 by a 2-1 margin for the last year or 18 months.

While many would like to think that the HVX200 is the best seller (I would have) in the world, actually Sony’s Z1 is the leader worldwide by a very wide margin.

gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows

[David Roth weiss]

[gary adcock] “there are actually more Varicams on the market now”

True, Pany has undoubtedly exceeded Sony now, but my point was really to alert ZRB that the F900 was not an HDV camera or a TR-900 mini DV camera.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles

[Jonathan Miller]

Also worth mentioning is the widget from Digital Heaven which is always useful.

https://www.digital-heaven.co.uk/videospace/index.php

Jon

TreeLine Productions
Fort Collins, CO USA

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