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  • Aaron Neitz

    September 29, 2006 at 5:21 pm

    Sherwood….. there’s definately something very wrong with your system. Stuff like that just doesn’t happen… there must be some corruption or hardware problems.

    like others suggested, could be some corrupt render files… so Delete them all and re-render.

    What kind of SATA drives are you using? Is it an external RAID? Internals? Are they close to capacity?

    How did you digitize? DV? One hour loads per clip?

    A couple years ago we had this home-made scsi JBOB… IBM drives, but 4 of them were a slightly different revision…Like all the other drives were Rev B, and they were Rev C. …it caused the occasional wrong piece of media to be displayed, which sounds a little like what you’re seeing.

  • Gary Adcock

    September 29, 2006 at 6:04 pm

    [CharlieX2] “.it caused the occasional wrong piece of media to be displayed, which sounds a little like what you’re seeing. “

    So would having a lot of clips named “untitled” or having multiple SEQ1, SEQ2
    Especially when you nest Seq 1, inside a different Seq 1

    Your problem is that all of your render files are writing over themselves. TOOLS>Render manager>
    delete render files, and then NAME every Sequence uniquely.

    Render problems like this happen most often when users do not bother to name their files or seq’s and create multiple items with the same names or there are multiple small renders instead of one large one.

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows

  • Aaron Neitz

    September 29, 2006 at 7:37 pm

    True that!

    In our case I surmised that slightly different seek times caused the RAID instability. Once we removed the suspect drives, it worked perfect.

  • Sherwood Ball

    September 29, 2006 at 10:15 pm

    Will definitely trash all render files and pref’s.

    Everything is uniquely named.
    Documentary full of headlines, pictures, reenactments, AE mov’s,
    typed chapter headings.

    Nested just for organizational purposes.
    Unfortunately, went on someone’s recommendation to nest without
    all of the necessary info of changing the opacity of the nest and rendering.

    Internal SATA Card with two external SATA drives.
    One for the project, one as backup.
    Now running both because my other editor worked on dif sections.
    Need to copy everything over to new blank drive, verify and start
    with fresh renders, etc.

    Thanks guys.

    G5 Dual 2.5 GHz
    4G Ram OSX4.6
    Sata drives
    Final Cut Studio 5.1.1, Logic Audio 7.1
    PS CS2, AE CS2

  • Sherwood Ball

    September 29, 2006 at 10:21 pm

    Digitized with reenactment and insert footage with the camera itself,
    DVX100, the rest .pngs, .jpegs copied onto the drive with the media folder
    and subfolder “jpgs” and then imported into the project in appropriate
    bin…e.g. “Headlines, FBI Files, Photos, etc.”

    Is there anything I should avoid as far as bin hierarchy?
    I have sub bins under Headlines and sub bins in each of the other bins
    for organizational purposes and to be to find something in these thousand
    files. yikes.

    I will continue working on this project through December, computer graphics,
    capturing more inserts/reenactments, and scoring to finish the PRODUCT,
    with or without fest acceptance.

    Having your help and really made a difference AND made it possible
    to create this puppy.

    Thank you ALL.
    Sherwood

    G5 Dual 2.5 GHz
    4G Ram OSX4.6
    Sata drives
    Final Cut Studio 5.1.1, Logic Audio 7.1
    PS CS2, AE CS2

  • Ben Holmes

    September 29, 2006 at 10:36 pm

    I realise that I’m a little late to the party/lynching/whatever, but – for what it’s worth I rarely if ever use nesting in FCP. IMHO it has always lead to instability and inconsistent behavior in FCP.

    I realise that sometimes you have to nest – for example applying a filter/motion effect to a multi-screen edit of sequence. Used sparingly I have few problems. Most of the time I take the opportunity to render out sections and reinsert them rather than nest – once I’m happy with them -keeping the orginal.

    You have my sympathies for your issues. Having a deadline messed up is never a good thing – I hope you get things sorted. It seems to me that older fcp users sometimes forget the little ‘workarounds’ they started using to get around fcp problems, and just start accepting them as ‘method’….

    Ben

    Editec Broadcast Editing Ltd

    EVS & FCP specialists for live OB operations. FCP systems just used on Sky Sports coverage of the Ryder Cup – live from the K Club.

    “The Supercar Run” now available for international distribution from http://www.electricsky.com

  • Ron James

    September 30, 2006 at 4:38 am

    The best thing you can do is what I already said, copy your stuff from inside the nest and paste it into a new sequence.

    There is absolutely no good reason why you should be jumping in and out of a nest to do your editing. It’s not a good workflow. Nesting is generally for compositing/fx.

    The best thing you can do is accept the workflow, not fight it.

  • Sherwood Ball

    September 30, 2006 at 8:58 am

    Ha! Un-Nest and go West my boy!

    I was given information that I relied on, instead of checking it out
    for myself. My responsibility.

    Actually the nesting made it easier instead of updating the position
    of markers everytime I add more footage or elements, expanding the
    section of the movie.

    Difficult to jump quickly to dif sections of a feature when the markers
    locations shift with new elements.

    Any techniques you guys use to jump from dif sections of the
    timeline?

    I accept the workflow. The workflow is my friend.
    Thnx.

    G5 Dual 2.5 GHz
    4G Ram OSX4.6
    Sata drives
    Final Cut Studio 5.1.1, Logic Audio 7.1
    PS CS2, AE CS2

  • Ron James

    October 1, 2006 at 4:24 pm

    Oh, I see.

    What I would do if you’re trying to preserve markers is…

    1) duplicate your sequence and store the original away safely.

    2) start cutting in the duplicate, which will still have all the markers.

    Duplicate as many times as you need. That way, you’ll also have previous versions stored away in case you need to go back.

    Am I on the right track?

  • Sherwood Ball

    October 1, 2006 at 6:34 pm

    Thnx Reel,
    Not so much priority on preserving markers, because the cut is
    what’s important.

    Just that with the addition of each new element the markers shift
    down the timeline and I have to go into Marker/Edit and change
    the time position in the marker so that it lines up.
    Not complaining, just a little tedious.

    Is there a way to tie a marker to the beginning of a particular clip,
    that way it stays in the relative position without the inputting
    of location in the marker/edit?

    Sherwood

    G5 Dual 2.5 GHz
    4G Ram OSX4.6
    Sata drives
    Final Cut Studio 5.1.1, Logic Audio 7.1
    PS CS2, AE CS2

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