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  • h.264 problem

    Posted by Jerry Smith on October 29, 2016 at 10:28 am

    I create a 1920×1080 AE comp with two pixel perfect solids and some text. There seems to be no way for me to get it into h.264 without getting the horizontal bands. Strangely, the text is unaffected. This is highly repeatable. I have tried it on different computers with different versions of AE (2014 and 2015). I guess it is really an encoding question. My next step is to educate myself in the ways of ffmpeg so that I can experiment with a (much) bigger number of h.264 codecs. Before I go and become a veritable codec guru I thought I’d see if one of you guys knows what’s going on.

    Thanks

    Jerry Smith replied 9 years, 6 months ago 3 Members · 21 Replies
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  • Tero Ahlfors

    October 29, 2016 at 1:46 pm

    You’re probably seeing what happens when you export to a codec with lower chroma subsampling.
    More info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroma_subsampling

  • Jerry Smith

    October 29, 2016 at 2:11 pm

    Thanks.

    You know though Dave, I actually don’t care much about file size. I just need it to be h.264. So, I’m actually looking for the least lossy version of h.264.

    Thanks Tero. I think you are on the right track. I did read something along those lines and I will investigate more.

    Do either of you, or anybody else for that matter, know the pros and cons of the different kinds of h.264 codecs?

    Moscow State University does a well respected test of the different codecs every year. Six years ago, x264 was regarded as the best. But there are many others now and x264 is no longer the winner.

    MAIN QUESTION MOVING FORWARD: WHAT H.264 IS BEST FOR STRAIGHT HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL LINES???????????!!!!

  • Tero Ahlfors

    October 29, 2016 at 2:21 pm

    [Jerry Smith] “WHAT H.264 IS BEST FOR STRAIGHT HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL LINES???????????!!!!”

    A 4:4:4 chroma subsampled one. The thing is that not all services/players/software support it. For example the Premiere Pro Mainconcept will either show these in black and white or they won’t work at all.

  • Roei Tzoref

    October 29, 2016 at 3:13 pm

    Try Handbrake https://handbrake.fr/ which is a free x.264 encoder. tweak it and see if you get better results than AME and let us know. bare in mind that using highly contrasting colors and sharp angles is a tough test for a lossy compression.

    Roei Tzoref
    After Effects Artist & Instructor
    ♫ Ae Blues Tutorials

  • Jerry Smith

    October 29, 2016 at 4:29 pm

    Hey Tero. First order of business is iOS. Do you have a list of ones that are 222?

  • Jerry Smith

    October 29, 2016 at 4:30 pm

    Hey Roei. I’m trying to figure out what intermediate encoder to use. It seems I need one. Handbrake doesn’t like Animation.

  • Jerry Smith

    October 29, 2016 at 4:39 pm

    I meant 444, not 222.

  • Roei Tzoref

    October 29, 2016 at 4:40 pm

    Animation is what I used when I encoded with Handbrake. what seems to be the problem? you can also try DNxHD or PNG

    Roei Tzoref
    After Effects Artist & Instructor
    ♫ Ae Blues Tutorials

  • Jerry Smith

    October 29, 2016 at 4:52 pm

    I’m probably doing something wrong. Everything is greyed out. For both Animation and ProRes4444, it’s greyed out and says no valid source found. I’m using Open under File menu.

  • Tero Ahlfors

    October 29, 2016 at 7:25 pm

    [Jerry Smith] “First order of business is iOS”

    The 4:4:4 profile is not natively supported in iOS.

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