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  • Group grading, or better, overall tweaking

    Posted by Sascha Haber on July 18, 2011 at 9:55 am

    Hi there,

    I wonder how I could do the following.
    I have a scene of media shot with different cameras, days and weather conditions.
    I spend quite some time matching them and the results are good.
    They all have drastically different grading settings of course.
    Not the client comes along, has no time but strong opinions and wants me to , lets say, ad 30% of saturation, make it brighter and softclip the highlights.
    My shot on this, add a node in the end, save the first setting, righclick and open the graph, copy the last node manually to the next series of shots.
    Question, would there be any sort of grouping that builds upon a mixed grading and preserving whats been done ?

    A slice of color…

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    Sascha Haber replied 14 years, 9 months ago 6 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Michael Stirling

    July 18, 2011 at 11:41 am

    It’s my understanding that you nodes before ‘grouping’ remain as graded IF UNTOUCHED and nodes added afterwards are rippled through all. Also, there are ripple options in the group menu give you a relative option so if you added sat to any node (including the 1’s made beforehand) by 30% then it would do it relatively to where you grade is now on that clip. All in all i think that relative is the safest setting cos the others risk you ruining the clips previous grades if you touch one of these nodes by accident.

    Also, to get to the stage of grouping in your case as you hadn’t started with it in mind you need to make sure that your pre-grouped clips have the same number of nodes for this to work smoothly

    Mike

  • Jay Moffat

    July 18, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    For the entire timeline you can do this on the track tab, but just for a collection of shots then a group is probably your friend, however you need to be careful with this, if you go wrong you cannot undo, there is a good link on this below which explains it better than i can here quickly I think, and is pretty much an expanded version of what Michael says above:

    https://vanhurkman.com/wordpress/?p=692

    J

  • Sascha Haber

    July 18, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    Thanks guys, that’s what I kinda wanted to avoid.
    The grouping makes a lot of sense when done in the beginning and actually, because I am using a predefined color tree it would work.
    For now I think the adding node might be the easiest and more save.

    Let’s turn it into a feature request
    +linked node
    A node that can be added to existing trees and is automatically linked as long as you leave it alone.

    A slice of color…

    DaVinci 7.1.2 OSX 10.6.7
    MacPro 5.1 2x 2,4 24GB
    RAID0 8TB eSata 6TB
    GTX 285 / GT 120
    Extreme 3D+ WAVE

    http://www.saschahaber.com

  • Mike Most

    July 18, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    If you create the group, then add a new node as an Append node, it will be placed at the end of every node tree for every shot in the group, allowing you to do what the track node does, but only for your selected shots. Is that what you’re after?

  • Sascha Haber

    July 18, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    But as soon as I add nodes to the group, they lose their settings.
    Maybe I did it wrong, I will go through Alex step by step again and see what happens.

    A slice of color…

    DaVinci 7.1.2 OSX 10.6.7
    MacPro 5.1 2x 2,4 24GB
    RAID0 8TB eSata 6TB
    GTX 285 / GT 120
    Extreme 3D+ WAVE

    http://www.saschahaber.com

  • Joseph Mastantuono

    July 19, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    I would totally love a linked node with a specific ID.

    I would also love the capabilty to copy/paste/duplicate nodes with a simple command.

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  • Jake Blackstone

    July 19, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    What I can’t understand, is while using say, FilmMaster, I can group any shots with any kind of grades and then just append the correction layer (node in resolve parlance) and it’s done. Why does Resolve cares, if all you want just to append one layer (node) to the group of shots?
    On the same subject, group grading implementation on Resolve leaves a lot to be desired. In it’s present iteration I can’t justify it’s use, at least for me personally. The list is long. You can’t gang and ungag shots on the fly. In order to add shots to the group, shots has to contain the same order of nodes. You can’t display just the shots in the group and hide the rest, a-la Lustre, you can’t display all shots in the group on one screen, a-la Baselight or Lustre. And the last group grading complain- adding a shot to a group is cumbersome…

  • Sascha Haber

    July 24, 2011 at 9:26 am

    Maybe we can all share our group wishes and experiences and Blackmagic might do something about it for future versions.
    This time the focus was on XMl and its great.
    Lets put group grading on the list for next time.

    A slice of color…

    DaVinci 8.0.1b3 OSX 10.6.8
    MacPro 5.1 2×2,4 24GB
    RAID0 8TB eSata 6TB
    GTX 285 / GT 120
    Extreme 3D+ WAVE

    http://www.saschahaber.com

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